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I've been trying to download 21.2 cinnamon 64-bit ISO or excuse me I mean verify the ISO. So I have the sha-sum that I can verify with the ISO but then when it comes to importing the Linux mint signing key, it doesn't jive up. It only gives me the last maybe 10 numbers of the key. And then when I go to verify the authenticity it says that I have a bad signature. I've tried like six of these stupid iso from the US. Should I just go to a different country and try my luck there? It doesn't help that I have no idea really what I'm doing other than I'm following really horrible instructions off of the Mint website. They must be written by the guy who writes instructions for Ikea.

I've been trying to download 21.2 cinnamon 64-bit ISO or excuse me I mean verify the ISO. So I have the sha-sum that I can verify with the ISO but then when it comes to importing the Linux mint signing key, it doesn't jive up. It only gives me the last maybe 10 numbers of the key. And then when I go to verify the authenticity it says that I have a bad signature. I've tried like six of these stupid iso from the US. Should I just go to a different country and try my luck there? It doesn't help that I have no idea really what I'm doing other than I'm following really horrible instructions off of the Mint website. They must be written by the guy who writes instructions for Ikea.

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[–] • 1 pt (edited )

Steps to consider when asking for assistance. -- not trying to troll you, trying to make your, and far more importantly, everyone else's life easier.

  1. When discussing a download, link it... If you cant like it exactly. Chop the link up to make it text and post it. We need to see what you are downloading.
  2. When discussing an additional point, say a SHA key, link to the key you are using.
  3. Provide some screenshots of what exactly is happening for you when you encounter an error. If you cant screenshot it. You have some soft of camera...

These 3 things make help far more efficient than just saying shit doesn't work, with a half ass explanation.

With those 3, I could have grabbed the download, and ran the validation, pointed you at a better download, or pointed out a misused key, I could have read the exact error message, and advanced the process far more than sort of and likes...

Not trying to knock you. Yes Linux is very much an RTFM OS, but we may just help. Not to mention the quality of help you would get other places with this same advice.

[–] • 1 pt

You're right. I haven't had really any super major troubleshooting issues in forever so I don't really know how to ask what I need correctly. I'm not up on new tech at all so I'm unbelievably rusty on how to figure even light troubleshooting out. I have a buddy who has the same computer and he even said dude just use windows. The latest version of windows is like watching TV. I'm frankly not that interested in all of its annoyances.

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Now. I went here... https://linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=305 downloaded the ISO from advancedhosters.com (first US link) Grabbed the sha key and its gpg counterpart on the exact same page, just above the download link i used.

then I followed the instructions written at https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/verify.html

That got me this... ____________________________________________________________________________ ╚═══===═══[~]>> gpg --verify /home/beau/Downloads/sha256sum.txt.gpg /home/beau/Downloads/sha256sum.txt gpg: Signature made Fri Sep 29 03:41:09 2023 MST gpg: using RSA key 27DEB15644C6B3CF3BD7D291300F846BA25BAE09 gpg: Good signature from "Linux Mint ISO Signing Key <root@linuxmint.com>" [unknown] gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature! gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner. Primary key fingerprint: 27DE B156 44C6 B3CF 3BD7 D291 300F 846B A25B AE09

╚═══===═══[~]>> sha256sum -b /home/beau/Downloads/linuxmint-21.2-cinnamon-64bit.iso 116578dda0e03f1421c214acdd66043b586e7afc7474e0796c150ac164a90a2a */home/beau/Downloads/linuxmint-21.2-cinnamon-64bit.iso ______________________________________________________________________________________

Which oddly enough matches the SHA key and GPG verification, given right there on the site, for it...

Instructions looked like plain english to me. maybe you went elsewhere and grabbed something else, then followed another site to do this?

Unsure how your experience could differ. but you didnt really give us any info.

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The only issue here is you haven't trusted the Mint key. (You said the hash matches so you're ok)

i.e. The signature is valid but you would need to configure your gpg trust rules to address the second warning. Checkout the gpg handbook for more info.

https://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual/x334.html

[–] • 0 pt (edited )

I just didnt add it to the message

╚═══===═══[~]>> gpg --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80 --recv-key "27DE B156 44C6 B3CF 3BD7 D291 300F 846B A25B AE09" gpg: key 300F846BA25BAE09: public key "Linux Mint ISO Signing Key <root@linuxmint.com>" importedD7 D291 300F 846B A25B gpg: Total number processed: 1 gpg: imported: 1

Which still left the error.

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I got that too but it said that it didn't trust the signature. So that to me says that that's not a trusted ISO. Am I incorrect in thinking that?

[–] • 1 pt

"jive" is a type of negro music. "jibe" means to be equivalent with something.

Why do you even want to verify the signing key? If you download the ISO from a valid repository, there isn't much of a need to verify the download. If the download is corrupted, it won't work and/or will fail someplace in installation. If you are paranoid, then go ahead and do the SHA validation for as many times it takes you, but delete the non-valdated ISO first then download from another server.

Ikea instructions are written by former East Germans, who learned English in MfS schools for espionage and signals intelligence interception. When you say "download from a different country", well, go ahead; the distribution will be the same and the SHA can be compared using the SHA validation routine. Why you haven't gotten a valid SHA handshake is likely because your download had corruption someplace in the download procedure. This is a common error-causing factor when using Torrent servers.

Anyway, you can just send an email to the Mint folks and tell them what you told us and they will send you a free DVD.

[–] • 3 pts

Covered all the bases, good response.

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Well that doesn't help me because I don't have any way to use the DVD, LOL. It is possible that I'm getting shifty responses because my downloads keep failing but I have a feeling that's more of the crappy internet connection where I'm at than anything else. I'm also trying to download it and prime Netflix time in the neighborhood I'm staying in. The only reason also I'm trying to do this because I've been reading up a little bit about mint and I forget when but it did get hacked and they altered the isos and Sha sums.

What sucks is I have a perfectly good bootable USB of mint 20.3 but for some reason I guess because I did it on a Linux machine the Lenovo that I just bought can't recognize it. When I go to use the BIOS in the beginning if I have the thumb drive plugged in it doesn't allow me to press the enter key which gets me into the setup configurations for bootable disks. When the USB is out it works fine.

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Be wary of using a Lenovo product. Lenovo has put in a lot of twists and turns into their BiOS. One example is the necessity to use Lenovo-specific drivers, etc. I've restored several Lenovo laptops which I bought at yard sales and flea-markets for $5 or $10 because "they were busted". They weren't but in all cases the batteries were exhausted, the power input socket was broken off inside the laptop frame and they had no hard drives.

I opened them up and fixed the power supply socket with superglue; easy peasy. Batteries can be had for about $30 which are compatible with the Lenovo. I have a lot of surplus 300~600 mb SSD drives purchases for a few dollars each at a bankrupt company fire-sale. Some even still had Windows AND corporate information on them. I have a set up to plug them in and wipe them; Plugged them into the laptop then did the Mint install. Again, easy-peasy.

Your explanation of your access to the internet sounds like a Third-World or Fourth-World situation. Since you don't now have a DVD capability, know that a separate DVD box is available for about $20 and plugs into the USB ports for power and data transfer.

Don't try to over-complicate your situation. Determine the problems one-by-one and fix them.

I've been working with Linux since there was Linux; and I am a certified Linux Systems Administrator, so I know most of what I am talking about.

Without doxxing yourself, tell us where you are located physically and what kind of Internet connections you have available. That information will help us to narrow the focus of our support for you. And BTW, trying to D/L Netflixs and anything else at the same time over a crappy connection is a definite non-starter. Step one: reboot your computer and only connect it to D/L your Linux ISO (Mint Preferred). No email, no web browser, no pR0n, no chat programs. Dedicate your connection to just the download.

Let us know how it goes for you and we will continue to help.

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I found my USB boot drive but I couldn't get it to recognize on the Lenovo. I found out that I had to disable something in the security. At the moment I can't recall what I had to turn off, device something or other. The way I was able to get the drive to load was: I started at once by pressing the f12, got to the boot screen and saw nothing. Escaped out, rebooted it (first taking out the thumb, drive inserting it back) then hitting f12 and it showed up. I was able to then load on mint 20.3 and have it on a live disc. Now I'm kind of scratching my head about RAM. Crucial scanned my computer and told me the type of ram that I could get and new SSD with a little bit more room. The ram they were specking was 3200 MHz but the scan showed my computer at 2666 MHz. From what I was reading the ram with the higher number will dumb down to the ram with the lower number. But I've also read that that could cause some issues. This is where I scratch my head because it's way above my pay grade which isn't much as you've noticed.