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Anyone using Rust on Linux workstation? I'm thinking about d/l the package and try it out. I Want to try manipulating CAT controls on radio transceivers.

Anyone using Rust on Linux workstation? I'm thinking about d/l the package and try it out. I Want to try manipulating CAT controls on radio transceivers.

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Rust is a more innovative system-level language in terms of safer memory management because it does not allow dangling pointers or null pointers. It is created for being secure and safe without affecting performance and speed. Mostly Rust is used to develop device drivers, operating systems such as BlogOS, intermezzOS, QuiltOS, Redox, RustOS, Rux, Tefflin, and Tock. It is also used in browsers like Mozilla firefox, games, etc.

Yet another programming language to save humanity. They all think that. I remember people gushing over GO. It will end up on the cutting room floor as all of its predecessors have. Sure, C++ allows you to shoot yourself in the foot, by why not? You can't design a programming language that non skilled engineers can use and have it be useful. Yea, I've tried a few new languages and they all fail on one level or another. C++ works on all platforms. Period.

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I tend to agree. Remember "ADA" and BasicA, compiled Pascal, and others I can't remember now. I still think C++ is the way to go.

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I grew to truly hate Pascal.

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Yep, it was something to see when trying to compile on a Windo$ for Work Groups PC. I always preferred Cobol on punch cards.

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Having been out of the programming loop most of 20 years now, not being familiar with the plethora of more recent languages, it warms my heart to hear someone say C++ is still the king of code. I learned C++ almost 40 years ago. I'm happy to know it still lives on.

Anyone out there writing anything in [ancient] Cobol or Fortran code? Maintenance of legacy programs?

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Micro controllers like ESP32 and PI pico still use C++. So far, it holds it's own. Think of the legacy code base still using C++.

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How about C? Visual Basic? Visual C? Pascal? Anyone still coding in these languages? I'd imagine the Visual versions are still active. They were great at automating excel applications.

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Cobol is still widely used in the gov sectors.

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I bet those legacy Cobol programs were initially written in the 1960s-70s on punch cards! The banking industry had a lot of legacy Cobol too. My understanding 30 years ago was that there was an unfulfilled demand for Cobol programmers and they were being paid a premium over the industry average salaries. The reason was the computer industry had moved on, Cobol was no longer being taught and nobody wanted to get locked into ancient languages that had no future. Cobol wasn't shiny enough to attract people to forsake the latest and greatest thing.

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-- Disclaimer. I dont do serious write entire systems level code -- I am in systems / cloud / automation --

The issue with C++ (not my personal issue, see disclaimer), is getting people to want to learn to write in it. It isn't what companies will pay all these people to write. Currently, Java, JS, and Python are earning the bucks in converged (cloud, its just the newest contraction in the contraction / expansion cycle that is industry computing) space. I can put out python & JS, some Java. I have never touched C++. I have never had a need for it.

I bet a C++ team could come in and take what we put together in python / java and write it to run far more efficiently though.

--Anecdotal-- I know several good dev's that have moved from writing C++ to java because they can make more short term money in the quick in and out projects.

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All of what you point out is true. The money is in javascript and java.

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Rust ..... yeah, sure, another shiny toy like python

Have you tried refactoring on python ? no ? why not ?

because everything can be anything

pick up a piece of python and .... you touch it and do not know if anything s going to BOMB because it is used somewhere else

young people cannot type, that must be the reason for the hate on writing the types of variables

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Look at the open source game veloren, as a project for some rust capabilities.

Done in rust.