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My fren installed Linux Mint on my cheap LP laptop six months ago, it works fine. But since a few days ago, it's shutting down without warning at 70% battery level. Computer is one year old, I only use it casually. How do I run a battery test? I don't have HP Support Assistant downloaded. I have read that other people had same problem, even with replacement battery..

My fren installed Linux Mint on my cheap LP laptop six months ago, it works fine. But since a few days ago, it's shutting down without warning at 70% battery level. Computer is one year old, I only use it casually. How do I run a battery test? I don't have HP Support Assistant downloaded. I have read that other people had same problem, even with replacement battery..

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Typically when this happens it means your battery is shot. They'll still take a charge and report a fully-charged voltage, but they drop suddenly and the device shuts off.

I have a HP Probook G3 that does the same thing. Works fine for about 20-30 minutes then shuts off. On AC, it's fine. Battery is just old and worn out.

Some machines used to have a battery calibration routine in the BIOS, but I think that's not been a thing for decades. Last one I had with that was a Winbook XL made for Windows 95.

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I imagine, but did read online where a Pajeet had the same issue even tho he replaced the battery...I have used this laptop less than a year.

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I've had odd issues with HP laptops, including power supply whine, fan noise, and just crap like bad solders on the GPU. It wouldn't surprise me if they had a line with either bad battery packs (that is, the charge controller or cells are defective.) Could also be how the charge controller in the battery is reporting things, or even how Linux is reading the charge controller.

Since it's a hard stop, it's probably something with how the battery interfaces to the machine, or the battery is just junk.

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It is a $300 machine, so I'm leaning towards 'crap'. I bought it for the cool wine-red color :(

--but I had a previous one for years that worked fine, except the hinges were broken, and I 'fixed' it with duct tape and clamps. Wish I had a pic, it was hilarious.

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Keeping a laptop plugged in all the time will destroy the battery pretty quickly.

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This hasn't been true for years. Stop spreading misinformation.

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Typically when this happens it means you did not suck the baby penis sufficiently for the wound to clot.

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I've found that three human sacrifices on the points of a Thaumaturgic Triangle often won't solve the problem.

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Have you tried ritual sodomy?

How much gold do you have? Can you melt it into the form of a calf?

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Is it overheating? Some laptops will shut down if too hot. Maybe need to open it up and get the dust out of the fans.

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Nah, it always shuts off right at 70% charge. I dun ordered me a new battery.

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It's these new covid notebooks - they are fucking plagued.

Normally you say battery - but there is a rash of these incidents on HP and Dell books. They all describe the same thing.

So make and model number - the book/battery could be factory defective - search first for identical troubles with this specific model - maybe it's been solved already. At six months old, it is probably still under the factory warranty.

Meanwhile - take the battery out - rub one side of the battery back and forth with the palm of your hand - not too hard, but hard enough to physically warm the battery a little. Rub from one end to the other. Big strokes:) 10 to 20 seconds of this.

Then flip the battery and the same thing on the other side.

Put the battery back in, and see if the battery works again. Make sure it is properly seated when you reinstall it.

Don't forget to say nice words to the laptop in a soothing tone.

You think I'm kidding? I'm not kidding. I've seen it work before at least a dozen times.

Do not underestimate your own power level.

Think like the electrons. Look how happy they are.

Meanwhile, all computers come with an electrical hazard power safety feature. The power has to be good for them to stay on.

We actually call this power good. The voltage must be clean and in the accepted range or the computer automatically shuts down. It's a fire prevention feature. The book is shutting down because the power is not good.

If the electrons are not flowing, it is because they are somehow stuck, or there is a blocked or missing connection somewhere in the circuit. Some kind of bottleneck maybe, reducing the flow to lower than the acceptable range. That could be the circuit in the battery itself (a possibly defective cell, most likely,) or a hardware problem inside the notebook, (bad capacitor or something, rare but it happens.)

...or, maybe the electrons have gotten themselves clogged up somewhere inside the battery. Truth is, humanity does not yet know all that there is to know about the world of electrons.

Your hand has an electromagnetic field of it's own. It's proximity can adjust how the electrons are parked inside the battery.

Especially if it is a poorly insulated cheap Chinese battery from the mainland.

Heat also causes metal to expand, and that affects the electrons as well. Heat excites them at the atomic level.

Go real easy with the heat thing.

Give it a shot - you have nothing to lose, and sometimes it works.

Happy thoughts...

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Fascinating reply, especially the 'big strokes' part...I'm on it. https://www.princeton.edu/news/2021/05/13/new-evidence-electrons-dual-nature-found-quantum-spin-liquid

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Yeah, quantum physics.

That's what I'm saying:)

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If an electron spins in the forest, and no one sees it...?

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If you have a volt meter you can see if your battery is actually dishing out 12v

Unless its a shit to get into

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I do, but I ordered a new battery, as that is slightly less work than getting my voltmeter from the garage

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lol

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True! My front door, where packages get dropped, is half the distance from my room to the garage. Even tho low IQ, I try to be efficient.

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Check the settings menu to see if you have screensaver or autosuspend turned on. These are battery save features which black your screen after 5, 10, 15, N minutes of inactivity and would look like a shutdown

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Uh no the laptop shuts off completely

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Simple test is does it work fine plugged in? If yes, it’s the battery, you could test it or just replace it and see of it works better.

Last battery I got for a laptop off Amazon was full of recycled batteries I think. Self drained in a week, only got a couple hours of use. So beware of that…

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It's fine plugged in, but cuts off without warning at 70% battery power if unplugged.

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Hold be the os shutting down for some reason, may be in settings mis set to wrong percent? Or battery has fault and the voltage just drops off suddenly triggering shutdown.

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Are you using Mate or Cinnamon?

Can you run uname -a in a terminal and copy/paste the output?

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Linux Mint

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There should be a teensy bit more info than that, fren...

Something along the lines of:

Linux expandedAnus 5.4.0-89-generic #100-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 24 10:50:10 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

I think mint has neofetch in as standard, so if you could run neofetch in a terminal and copy/past the output of that as well, it would help.

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Ubuntu. I know very little about computers.

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I found this

  .-MMMM`..-:::::::-..`MMMM-.          OS: Linux Mint 20 x86_64 
.:MMMM.:MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM:.MMMM:.        Host: HP 15 Notebook PC Type1 - Prod

-MMM-M---MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.MMM- Kernel: 5.4.0-70-generic :MMM:MM :MMMM:....::-...-MMMM:MMM:Uptime: 1 hour, 11 mins :MMM:MMM :MM::MMM:MMM: Packages: 2029 (dpkg) .MMM.MMMM:MM. -MM. .MM-MMMM.MMM. Shell: bash 5.0.17 :MMM:MMMM:MM. -MM- .MM:MMMM-MMM: Resolution: 1366x768 :MMM:MMMM:MM. -MM- .MM:MMMM:MMM: DE: MATE :MMM:MMMM:MM. -MM- .MM:MMMM-MMM: WM: Metacity (Marco) .MMM.MMMM:MM:--:MM:--:MM:MMMM.MMM. WM Theme: Mint-Y :MMM:MMM- -MMMMMMMMMMMM- -MMM-MMM: Theme: Mint-Y-Sand [GTK2/3] :MMM:MMM::MMM:MMM: Icons: Mint-Y-Sand [GTK2/3] .MMM.MMMM:--------------:MMMM.MMM. Terminal: mate-terminal '-MMMM.-MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM-.MMMM-' Terminal Font: Monospace 10 '.-MMMM--:::::--MMMM-.' CPU: Intel Pentium N3540 (4) @ 2.665 '-MMMMMMMMMMMMM-' GPU: Intel Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37 -:::::- Memory: 1212MiB / 3826MiB

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It's no help to you but HP makes the worst POS computers of all the big names except maybe Acer and MSI. I used to do purchasing for IT and I learned very quickly that their desktops and laptops failed regularly. HP business class printers and networking equipment are the bees knees though.

It could also be the charging circuitry that's resulting in the error and updating the system might help. I don't use Mint but some where in the menu will be the software package manager. Open it up and figure out how to check for updates.

Alternatively you can use the command line. If you want more info feel free to ask.