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Happened again, dead motherboard battery. My Dell had it happen and not my MSI B450 Tomahawk Max 2 has a dead fucking battery and just after 6 months. Well I thought I was hacked or had a root kit or that the quality of linux had shit the bed. My mouse clicks and wifi adapter and keyboard all usb were acting funny, my OS was slow as fuck, and then I tried to do an install and the drive was locked and I found out that it will not unlock till I have another battery with a charge in the motherboard. I was bullshit, I've been distro hopping because of distro's acting flaky and come to find out the battery was shit in the board.

I then went online to find one and then come to find out that a lot of resellers are selling ones that are dead and refurbished aka recharged but a button cell unless marked rechargable might last a month. I think MSI bought a shitload of used but with a charge cells at super low prices or the sellers online put the old ones in and kept the new ones if they ever had new ones at all. I also found that the batteries marked durocell and ever ready and even sony might have been sitting in warehouses for years and the resellers are selling them and if the warehouse is basically not climate controlled as in really hot and cold mattering the season batteries will go dead far sooner than they will in a 60 to 80 degree controlled storage facility.

BTW I am glad of the live usbs I had lying around for emergencies. I used one to burn another 5 onto superfast usb 3.2 sandisk ultra and amazingly they are as fast even to boot as my SSD was, I just have to write down new passwords immediately into my notebook so I can recopy them onto my new OS when the battery is installed. What is fucked up is that I have to check and update the time at least one time per day or internet sites load super slow since the time for packets recieved my system sends to the server is off a bit so the server is like wtf is your time dilation dude " I garnished up that last tech part". I notice about a month ago my time would be off once in a while so I would just check it out.

I was looking around for the locked drive and found a lot of users nowadays are getting computers where the batteries last less than 6 months. I think it's time for the manufacturers to test batteries first to see if they have at least 3 volts and more like 3.3 to 3.5 is better showing a full charge and a relatively newly manufactured battery. I'm betting if I took my battery and tested it I would see around .5 or less so it basically isn't doing shit in the system except not showing a charge. I think though cannot prove it that the battery was virtually dead when I recieved it. I remember trying to install a distro so I started my PC and then it installed the system but it ran like shit. I then went into bios for some message about 32bit when installing something and it was in not uefi but windows friendly CRM and the virtualization was off and I remember setting it to the on position the day before. It was then I realized it only fucked up when off no restarting but totally off since I guess a residual charge holds for long enough to restart but stut down for a minute and the system forgets all it's settings in the bios.

So all my frustration was a dead fucking battery from a shitty fucking cheap motherfucking motherboard manufacturer.

Happened again, dead motherboard battery. My Dell had it happen and not my MSI B450 Tomahawk Max 2 has a dead fucking battery and just after 6 months. Well I thought I was hacked or had a root kit or that the quality of linux had shit the bed. My mouse clicks and wifi adapter and keyboard all usb were acting funny, my OS was slow as fuck, and then I tried to do an install and the drive was locked and I found out that it will not unlock till I have another battery with a charge in the motherboard. I was bullshit, I've been distro hopping because of distro's acting flaky and come to find out the battery was shit in the board. I then went online to find one and then come to find out that a lot of resellers are selling ones that are dead and refurbished aka recharged but a button cell unless marked rechargable might last a month. I think MSI bought a shitload of used but with a charge cells at super low prices or the sellers online put the old ones in and kept the new ones if they ever had new ones at all. I also found that the batteries marked durocell and ever ready and even sony might have been sitting in warehouses for years and the resellers are selling them and if the warehouse is basically not climate controlled as in really hot and cold mattering the season batteries will go dead far sooner than they will in a 60 to 80 degree controlled storage facility. BTW I am glad of the live usbs I had lying around for emergencies. I used one to burn another 5 onto superfast usb 3.2 sandisk ultra and amazingly they are as fast even to boot as my SSD was, I just have to write down new passwords immediately into my notebook so I can recopy them onto my new OS when the battery is installed. What is fucked up is that I have to check and update the time at least one time per day or internet sites load super slow since the time for packets recieved my system sends to the server is off a bit so the server is like wtf is your time dilation dude " I garnished up that last tech part". I notice about a month ago my time would be off once in a while so I would just check it out. I was looking around for the locked drive and found a lot of users nowadays are getting computers where the batteries last less than 6 months. I think it's time for the manufacturers to test batteries first to see if they have at least 3 volts and more like 3.3 to 3.5 is better showing a full charge and a relatively newly manufactured battery. I'm betting if I took my battery and tested it I would see around .5 or less so it basically isn't doing shit in the system except not showing a charge. I think though cannot prove it that the battery was virtually dead when I recieved it. I remember trying to install a distro so I started my PC and then it installed the system but it ran like shit. I then went into bios for some message about 32bit when installing something and it was in not uefi but windows friendly CRM and the virtualization was off and I remember setting it to the on position the day before. It was then I realized it only fucked up when off no restarting but totally off since I guess a residual charge holds for long enough to restart but stut down for a minute and the system forgets all it's settings in the bios. So all my frustration was a dead fucking battery from a shitty fucking cheap motherfucking motherboard manufacturer.

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[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

I also read today which I didn't know before. You have to discharge you system fully before installing a new battery or the residual charge in the system will make it so it may not start the first time so out battery unplugged then wait for 10 minutes.The last part is bullshit since if you hold in the start button for 10 seconds it'll discharge the capacitors fully by creating a circuit and then the left over current will flow and burn off likely in the form of heat but the ten minutes is for likely stupid people that would hit the reset or the CD eject button mistakenly instead.

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I'm sure I've heard that but it's bullshit. The only reason you'd discharge the system fully is to prevent any shocks to you or potential shorts in the system itself by your manipulating parts. There are some schools of thought that say wait X seconds between power cycles, but again, there's no real logic behind that. 70 years ago when things were tubes and later, early semiconductors? Yeah, on and off all the time may damage your parts. Now? The stuff literally DGAF.

I've pulled and replaced plenty of batteries over the decades, never ran into this at all.

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They said some computers wouldn't even start the first time for some reason if you put the battery in without doing this. I was skepticle but on the other hand maybe they forgot to reset up their bios but there may be something to it with old computers.

I just thought, you said the bios can hold for a while with the residual charge. Maybe it's trying to run the set and the flashed base bios settings together and it's jamming the system. I remember the clock would always change but some settings would not change at all if I shutdown for just a second or 2. Maybe it's that so to make sure the system starts at known norms and not 1/2 base and 1/2 personal user set settings. That would make sense because some guys would likely have the case open and have that battery out in a second and the new one in hand and just drop the old on and put in the new one in under 10 seconds.I used to have that kind of internet computer addiction in the 90's.Played Diablo original for 62 hrs after working my last day of the week 12 hr shift. I was seeing 3 of everything when I finally decided to sleep after being awake almost 75 hrs straight. I tried to just go fast but ended up crawling on hands and knees since triple vision makes you dizzy as fuck after sitting 4 hrs between piss breaks. The weed was helping to focus me and not let me realize I was dangerously without sleep or nutrition since eating was not on the computer.

Hell I accidentally while working on this one thought I was awake for 2 days but then found out I was 2 days off and realize I was up over 80 hrs with a couple of 4 hr naps in that time but my adrenaline to get this fucker working right and about 200 internet searches through off my sense of time passing. But shit happens. :)

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That sounds like some of the talk I overheard years ago at a hamfest. Some guys were talking about the "special diodes" that would open up after so many hours and ruin your motherboard.

If you really want to be safe, reset the CMOS to defaults after replacing your battery, and re-program it. Other than that, if it's getting corrupted then you probably have other issues.