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I've never touched it myself, and people are screaming about the recent redhat change to it's development cycle. Just curious to know how much if an impact it actually makes on the community. I almost NEVER see it used in a home desktop/gaming set up

I've never touched it myself, and people are screaming about the recent redhat change to it's development cycle. Just curious to know how much if an impact it actually makes on the community. I almost NEVER see it used in a home desktop/gaming set up

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CentOS is everywhere. It's widely used as a web server, among other things. It's huge in server environment.

See, CentOS had something nobody else had for free. It had legendary support lengths. CentOS 7, just to pick one at random, was supposed to be supported for like a decade.

That's not a typo - like a decade of updates and support.

Ubuntu has 9 months, unless you do a LTS, which traditionally has 3 years of support. Lately, you can opt for (and pay for - if you are doing commercial stuff or have more than 3 computers) extended support that brings it out to 5 years.

CentOS was supported for like time periods nearing a decade in length.

Anyhow, look to Springdale (used to be PUIAS) or Scientific Linux (just don't add the repos for the science stuff and it's binary compatible with RHEL). They're also working on Rocky Linux, but it'll be a new distro (with a ton of very, very big names behind it) and I'm not willing to suggest using a new distro (no matter how good) in production. If you can stretch out your CentOS use for a couple of years, then maybe Rocky will look for you.

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Thanks for the clarification. Glad to see you moved over here. Always like seeing your weekly musician threads

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Also, CentOS is usable as a desktop OS. It's usually in the 'workstation' class, where stability is the goal. It obviously doesn't get the latest and newest shiny versions of applications, but it gets security and bug fixes back-ported. The rock-solid stability and large support life made it a legendary distro. It's a goddamned shame that Red Hat is butchering it, but IBM owns Red Hat now and so I'd expect some stupid decisions from them.

I suspect they want to push more people into RHEL, with a paid support contract. That's my hunch, but it's just speculation. I have no way to confirm it and it's not like IBM lets me into the meetings that decide these things, regardless of how many shares I own. (I do own some of IBM's stock.)

I've lately been spending my time helping out on the various Linux forums. I even have started my own Linux site - which I'll likely start sharing soon. I'd all but ceased participation on Voat (except for the guitar thread). I'm not sure what will happen here with my activities on Poal. We shall see... Right now, I have some time-consuming Linux obligations, including testing the next version of an official Ubuntu flavor.

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Well, regardless, it makes me happier than you know to see folks active in the Linux sub here. Voat's was decently active, and I was worried I've have to go to reddit for linux talk/news. That place makes my butthole itch just thinking about it

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I just like the cinnamon flavored ones.

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I have it on several VMs and a physical server in my lab. I always considered Cent as more of a way to learn Red Hat for poor fucks like me. Haven't looked at Rocky Linux but I'll get around to it.

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I do not use it at home, but in the professional setting it is huge... it was the 'free version of Red hat Enterprise'. My team at work has literally hundreds of hosts running CentOS. We were in the middle of certifying and migrating to CentOS 8 when this news hit.

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I've run across it out in the world. One was a crusty building security system. Another was as a custom front end to an ancient Amdahl mainframe that was terrifyingly still running production financial systems.

It seems to be pretty big in finance for other areas as well.

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I used it all the time for test work before it went to a red hat production environment.

You're right, its not really a consooomer os. It was a barebones, no horseshit, rock solid, free version of Red hat (without support).

A whole bunch of people will need to rework their infrastructure so a production environment doesn't go down because of some faggot wrote a shit patch and wrecks your system.

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Is Debian Stable a viable alternative? or Slackware?

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Prob neither. Debian(Ubuntu) users a different file structure and different commands than Redhat. My world needs near identical setups for instructions and auditing. Lots of software is only written for one or the other too.

You can definitely use them, but you'll have to rework everything

Slackware seems too stripped down

This is a huge monkey wrench because ibm is a bunch of faggots

Edit: I have no idea what to actually recommend right now, but I need to figure it out quick

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Guess we'll need to see what Rocky Linux does then. Wasn't aware it was such an issue, but it makes sense when you think about freelance software development testbeds. I wonder if Fedora proper will step up in the future?