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It was one of the first questions I regularly brought up publicly several years ago, when this trans issue was really first being dropped on the table. I triggered so many liberal people by asking it. They have no answer, because there can't be one. It's such a simple contradiction. If gender is not coupled to physiology, but is merely a socially imprinted construct, then why does a man who believes he is a woman need to have his penis chopped off? Moreover, why does he need to get breasts, long flowing hair, and wear dresses?
Furthermore, if you really want to get them turning in circles (because the real zealots are likely to emphasize feelings when you bring this up), ask them to define what it feels like to be a woman. Haha. Holy shit. Watch them try to do this one. They'll inevitably justify their definition of real gender by appealing to the false social constructs or to physiology. It's definitely not as simple as opposite sex attraction, and you can easily stick them to the wall with this. If they suggest that it's anything to do with attraction to men, then you just say, "Okay, that makes him a gay man", or, "Is it mandatory for women to like men?"
Usually two or three Socratic kind of digs, and you, my friend, will earn your bigot badge.
then why does a man who believes he is a woman need to have his penis chopped off? Moreover, why does he need to get breasts, long flowing hair, and wear dresses?
If they were smart they would have countered "because she lives in a gendered society." Of course then you'd need to address the root of why he feels such distress due to conforming with male social norms in the first place, which inevitably leads back to "because almost every human has an innate and binary sense of gender."
"So you mean to tell me that the only way for you to feel actualized as a woman is according to the very social constructs you're arguing don't define authentic gender? Forget how society may or may not establish gender. How do you know that what you feel like is what a woman feels like? Put another way, what about the way you feel is feminine?"
Their own attempts to define the binary will establish the stereotypes they're trying to destroy, or at least that other parts of liberal society are trying to destroy. You almost never see these internal contradictions discussed in their ranks, however. That one group of feminists is actively trying to expand and tear down the walls that define femininity, while a bunch of mentally ill dudes are putting on dresses and completely reinforcing the problematic stereotypes the feminists would slit your throat for (had you been a straight white male affirming them). But there they all go, cheering each other on, haha.
"So you mean to tell me that the only way for you to feel actualized as a woman is according to the very social constructs you're arguing don't define authentic gender? Forget how society may or may not establish gender. How do you know that what you feel like is what a woman feels like? Put another way, what about the way you feel is feminine?"
That's still easy to counter with the first point though: "Because we live in a gendered society." Even if gender is a social construct, we're still raised with that social construct and people's knowledge of gender and comfort comes from that.
Asking why someone raised in that environment would feel distress due to conforming to what they are taught forces them to acknowledge gender is an innate instinct, not a cultural meme, and then they've lost.
But there they all go, cheering each other on, haha.
Yeah, it's a sea of doublethink. I don't envy them.
It’s glorious.
Dyed in the wool gender progressives should be diametrically opposed to all things trans as they completely undermine the movement by enforcing normative gender identities.
ask them to define what it feels like to be a woman.
It means the power for people to pay attention to them simply because of who they are. As opposed to being a man and being ignored unless they're doing something awesome.
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