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This shit never stops. When is it time for holy vengeance to rain fire.

This shit never stops. When is it time for holy vengeance to rain fire.

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[–] • 6 pts

I've been pissed lately and noticing they are putting this crap in everything. How about not adding sugar or artificial crap to everything..... Why can't food just be food, it doesn't need to be a insulin endorphin hit of cancer chemicals.

[–] • 1 pt

It's funny because the radio ads of the 1940's were propagandizing people to the "amazing nutritional value of margarine with 9000 units of vitamin A!". We've been hosed since jump.

[–] • 5 pts

My dentist recommended Stevia instead of sugar to me last year. He said his (~60 year old) wife loves it. I bought a bag of it, was not impressed. I went back to sugar in my coffee. This might partly explain why they did not have children of their own, they adopted a boy years ago.

[–] • 6 pts

I've been using monk fruit with erythritol myself.

[–] • 1 pt

Just bought some of this myself.

[–] • 4 pts

I'd argue for using honey rather than sugar. Sugar only has negative effects on your health. Honey has many positives and then a bit of the same negative effects as sugar.

[–] • 1 pt

I put sugar in my coffee. It tastes better than the fake stuff.

[–] • 0 pt

If you can't manage your intake you don't deserve it. I use sugar because I have self control and I REALLY don't trust evil people when they tell me what to do

[–] • 4 pts

All sugar alternatives are arguably worse than sugar (which is also terrible, stop eating it.) For example, aspartame causes brain cancer. All those tabs and diet cokes people drink are horrible.

[–] • 0 pt

saying all sweeteners are bad because one of them is bad is as stupid as saying all food is bad because some food is toxic. There are dozens of artificial sweeteners and they are all entirely different chemicals.

They are absolutley NOT worse than sugar. That is propaganda, probably paid for by the same people puttling all that sugar into all the food you eat.

[–] • 2 pts (edited )

Except its not just one that's bad. I just gave one example. All of the popular artificial sweeteners such as sweet n low, Splenda, stevia, aspartame, saccharine, etc are just as bad as sugar. And the fact that people think artificial sweeteners have no side effects is what makes it worse, because they then use it in overdrive. At least with sugar, people know its bad.

As for it being propaganda, I have seen artificial sweeteners give cancer just like sugar does. Brain cancer. Since then, I cut out all sweets, don't eat sugar and kill my own meat. Might have a bite of pie during the Christmas season and Easter, but that's it.

[–] • 0 pt

All of the popular artificial sweeteners such as sweet n low, Splenda, stevia, aspartame, saccharine, etc are just as bad as sugar.

What evidence do you have for that?

[–] • 4 pts

So that's why my wife isn't getting pregnant! All this time I was blaming it on her being 75.

[–] • 3 pts

Did you try the other holes?

[–] • 0 pt

At that age, all the holes fuse into one.

[–] • 3 pts

According to peer-reviewed scientific studies, Stevia is incredibly successful at reducing fertility.

Where do they find the clowns that write these articles? There's so many scientific studies that they can't even reference one of them. A+ journalism right there.

[–] • 0 pt

Yeah, this... looks like bullshit.

[–] • 3 pts

I suspect they want everyone back on addictive sugar. It's actually hard to get stevia in the regular American diet, plus it has a weird aftertaste many do not like.

While I thank you for posting I'm going to give my opinion this article is bullshit/propaganda to get everyone back on highly addictive, diabetes causing sugar or cancer causing artificial sweetners.

Japan uses stevia extensively, and they don't seem to have a problem with health or fertility.

[–] • 6 pts

Japan has been in a population decline for years.

If stevia works by messing up hormones, it might be behind the hikikomori phenomenon, too.

[–] • 1 pt

It's because with 5 generations living in the same house, people are waiting rather than they can't get pregnant. Just my uneducated but empirically derived opinion.

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You're wrong. First of all, sugar may be unhealthy in excess but it is still less harmful than any artificial sweetener and most natural ones. There's a reason you can taste sweetness and that's because sugar is an important source of energy for most land animals. The problem is people in modern times are accustomed to extreme levels of it that aren't even possible in nature. The solution to this is gradually reducing sugar intake, not replacing it with toxic chemicals or exotic jungle herbs.

Stevia was indeed used as (somewhat unreliable) birth control by Paraguayan natives and Japan's abysmal fertility clearly shows they were on to something.

[–] • 1 pt

They are desperately depopulated! You can hardly tell the boys from the girls! Men are marrying holograms and pillows in Japan! WTF!

[–] • 0 pt

That's definitely true, so who knows. You may be right, it's just my theory.

[–] • 0 pt

Japan uses stevia extensively, and they don't seem to have a problem with health or fertility.

Japan has a huge population decline are you retarded? You're completely inverting the truth.

https://thediplomat.com/2023/01/japans-population-crisis-nears-point-of-no-return/

[–] • 0 pt

If someone stays inside and depressed about life, they aren't producing kids. That's what I attributed to normal overcrowding conditions and nature keeping everyone alive.

https://natural-fertility-info.com/does-stevia-cause-infertility.html#:~:text=In%20short%20it%20seems%20that,be%20used%20for%20contraceptive%20purposes.

Btw - why does the media always say countries can't have a decline in population and survive? I liked it far better when there were less people.

[–] • 0 pt

Fair enough. I got agitated after reading the article and posted it forthwith.

[–] • 2 pts

Always default to knowledge and sharing, let everyone weigh in on fact or fiction.

[–] • 2 pts

As I understand it (and I may be wrong so anyone who knows better please correct me), there are quite a number of "stevia" plants. Apparently only a few cause infertility and others are sweet. The basic point is that the exact plants being used for the sweetener are not the plants what cause infertility, but they're related.

And again, I may be wrong, but I think this is a point worth clarifying either way. Any plant experts can weigh in on this?

Also, there was a recent thread on artificial sweeteners either here or on Voat. People overwhelmingly said sucralose was the better sweetener followed by monk fruit. I was using stevia in my morning teas, but tried powdered sucralose yesterday and yes it's way better. Haven't tried the monk fruit yet (likely later this morning).

Finally, what downsides are there to sucralose and monk fruit? Are there any?

[–] • 1 pt

Except sucralose makes the liver work harder to turn the sucrose into glucose. It's not better for you than plain old sugar.

[–] • 0 pt

Monk fruit with erythritol to me seems to be the least dangerous, but that and sucralose are the only non sugars that I don't mind eating.

[–] • 2 pts

but that and sucralose are the only non sugars that I don't mind eating.

Sucralose is sucrose sugar with a few chlorine atoms replacing some hydroxyl groups in the sucrose molecule. What is your take on chlorinated water treatment being good or bad?

[–] • 0 pt

Bad. I use salt water pools and the gulf for swimming, etc.

What's the deal with the extra chlorine? I've never looked into what it does to the body.

[–] • 0 pt

Sucralose causes... I wanna say an even higher insulin response than sugar. Doublecheck me on that, but I do know it breaks a fast.

High insulin without any food to store in your cells makes for more hunger hormones. Recipe for overeating.

[–] • 1 pt

If Bill Gates is involved in any way this article is 100% correct.

[–] • 1 pt

It’s been predicted that when the SHTF and food gets scarce people will lose their shit from not being able to feed their sugar addiction, be it natural or artificial. If there ever was a time to back away from sweets now is it.

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When I started losing weight, using calorie restricted diet with no sugar and in deficit, the first 5-7 days I had searing, sharp pains in my gut, my jaw hurt, my tongue hurt, and I would be constantly trying to go to the fridge, but didn't. Couldn't sleep, think, or do anything. I just curled up and watched videos or shows, or went for walks. By about day 10 all that was gone.

[–] • 1 pt

Not quite as torturous as quitting heroin or smoking I wouldn’t think, but there’s definitely a nasty unpleasant physical withdrawal period as well as a mental one you’ll see below. I remember there was some pretty fast weight loss that first two weeks then leveled off. The cravings not so much, I understand it is a matter of keeping a balance between the candida in your gut, which the sugar feeds and sends to your brain the craving for more sweets and your gut flora. All the pot bellies (sometimes called skinny fat men) we see today are caused by a gut full of candida where there’s way more candida than good gut flora. The idea being to have a higher level of good gut flora over candida levels. The more candida one has the longer the struggle to lose weight and fight off cravings is going to be. Once the higher level of good gut flora is achieved it is then the one that rules the roost in sending signals to the brain for food cravings and not the sugar craving candida’s. Hence the cravings for sugars will greatly subside. Foods that turn into sugar can fuk up the balance too so that must be kept in mind though not as detrimental to your weight loss goal as is straight up sugar. You do want to keep those foods in check so the candida levels don’t start building above the good gut flora levels or you’re back to the pot belly beer drink’n, potato and bread gulp’n physique you’ll soon see in your mirror right damn quick.

At least this is how it was all explained to me so take that for what it’s worth. Having been of the skinny fat man variety a time or two throughout life dropping the sugar and sugar making foods did bring things back in line.

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I checked recently and I'm at 20% body fat, and dropping. Before my recent 12 lb weight gain, I was at 14%.

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Culture is completely fucked up and women are full blown whores. You dont need to do anything with the food supply

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I don't use stevia but I do know White people are plain indolent. Whites either do nothing- or Timothy Mcvie buildings. People are definitely being controlled through food. That's why there's a shit ton of fast food places everywhere you go and sugary carb and fat laden foods at the grocers. Fuckin hell.

[–] • 2 pts

This whole thing is meant to destroy whites. Grocery store veggies and fruits without nutrition, or worse passing along pesticides that are endocrine disrupters. Personal care products that do the same, cause infertility. Foods that are processed with all kinds of chemicals. Universities indoctrination of students in anti white classes. Corporations vilification of whites. Feminists destroying families. It's all so tiresome.

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