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Jesus' mother was Mary. The scriptures say that Joseph was a direct descendant of King David. The savior prophesied about in the Old Testament was to be a descendant of David. But..... Jesus wasn't Joseph's son. Mary was already pregnant when she met Joseph. So Jesus isn't the prophesied savior.
The only way around this is to say that Joseph isn't Jesus' genetic father, but because Joseph married Mary before she gave birth, that makes Jesus Joseph's son. And a descendant of David, But not genetically.
Either way, Joseph is not Jesus' genetic father. Therefore, the fact that Joseph was a descendant of King David and the race/ethnicity of Joseph is irrelevant. Also, the arguments about the definition of today's Jews and biblical Jews is irrelevant. We have no lineage for Mary. All we know is that she was from Nazareth, which was in Galilee. Separate from Judea.
Divine conception aside, the fact remains that we have no known father for Jesus. So no one can call Jesus an ethnic/racial Jew.
But if we can't call Jesus a racial Jew, can we call him a Jew because of religion?
Religiously, Jesus was a Christian. Done. Jesus "Christ" practiced "Christ"ianity, not Judaism. (Ancient, modern, Judaism, Hebruism - it doesn't matter.) Jesus practiced Christianity. And yes its' true that Christianity shares things with both Judaism and Buddhism. So calling Jesus a Jew because he did some Jewish things is just as stupid as calling him a Buddhist because he did some Buddhist things.
Modern, ancient, religious, ethnic, racial, Hebrew, Judea, Jew, Semite, kike - It doesn't matter. Jesus was not a racial Jew, and Jesus was not a religious Jew. Regardless of your definition of Jew.- Jesus wasn't any type of Jew.
Lots of handwaving in here.
Jesus wasn't any type of Jew.
the arguments about the definition of today's Jews and biblical Jews is (sic) irrelevant
Not exactly coherent.
Jesus isn't the prophesied savior.
You can't be serious. The fulfilled prophecies and eyewitness testimonies are overwhelming and quite clear. John 1:29
Not exactly coherent.
That's some fancy hand waving you're doing there. I understand that this is the internet and some people here aren't fluent in english. But to those of us who are, this is perfectly coherent.
You can't be serious.
I am very serious. The Bible contains a contradiction. But if you would have read the VERY NEXT SENTENCE - You would have read how I explained how Jesus was still the savior despite the contradiction.
The fact remains - No matter what anyone's definition of Jew is, modern or biblical, Jesus was not any type of Jew. Joseph was. But Jesus wasn't Joseph's biological son. And Mary wasn't any type of Jew.
But if you would have read the VERY NEXT SENTENCE - You would have read how I explained how Jesus was still the savior despite the contradiction
Honestly I was stuck on the previous sentence wherein you claimed that Mary was pregnant before she met Joseph. That is false. I kinda get hung up on silly details like that sometimes and gloss over the rest of the bullshit.
Being the adopted son of a "Jew" is good enough for me. He is of royal lineage.
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