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Do you guys feel that Freemasonry and Illuminati are basically the same and basically both working for the global zionist takeover? It seems like Freemasonry throughout history is just a bunch of goyim doing the bidding of their banker joo masters. That would mean that all the US founding fathers were in with the cabal from day one, and there is evidence to support that. Im wondering what others perspectives and opinions are on this topic.

Do you guys feel that Freemasonry and Illuminati are basically the same and basically both working for the global zionist takeover? It seems like Freemasonry throughout history is just a bunch of goyim doing the bidding of their banker joo masters. That would mean that all the US founding fathers were in with the cabal from day one, and there is evidence to support that. Im wondering what others perspectives and opinions are on this topic.

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yes they're both controlled by jews. i don't believe the founding fathers were so much 'in with the cabal', maybe 1 or 2. there's a letter from george washington which states he hasn't had anything to do with freemasonry in 30 yrs but he somewhat agrees that it's possibly become corrupted. it's pretty obvious by the letter he has no idea what's going on. lots of people joined freemasonry to hide from and fight back against the persecution of the catholic church, or stringent christianity in general. these people had good intentions and weren't cryptos or 'secret satanists'. freemasonry is designed so that those at the very top are estranged from the rest so you can be high ranking and still clueless as to what's actually going on. and just cause you're a member doesn't mean they get you to do anything nefarious, in 99% of cases just fighting back against the catholic church or forming a state outside of its control was befitting ultimate jewish ambitions. a lot of people also join because they believe in a God and believe in the general morality of christianity but they know the rest isn't literal. these high iq people have no home elsewhere and just got attacked by the low iq christian mobs for daring to speak logical blasphemies so freemasonry was adapted to capture them, hence all the esoteric crap.

you can tell jews operate it just by the direction it has taken over the centuries. i don't blame pre-1800 figures for getting duped by it. but thereafter you see the signs develop as it drives revolution everywhere ultimately leading to bolshevism ultimately leading to a direction of white genocide.

oh and the people spouting 'muh jesuits' are totally clueless and can't comprehend the games of double agents. you'll notice disinfo agents amongst the right often attach the jesuit angle when they push the 'everything's fascist, deys the real nazis etc' upon Q boomers. they're total morons. it was freemasonry vs jesuits, they're not the fucking same group at all, they were in total opposition. when you look at the secret codes those high iqs driven to freemasonry came up with, it's little wonder that they won.