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If this is true, then it shouldn't be hard to find a list of their names.

I can go back and look at all the congressmen who served in the US back to the 1800s, so it shouldn't be hard to "Name the Jew."

But I've used duckduckgo and turned up little results. But I do find that Jews were overrepresented in the Bolshevik Party by a significant margin:

"In 1922, the Bolshevik party took a census of its own ethnic composition. At this time, Jewish participation in Soviet affairs was at its highest; this was years before the Soviets turned anti-Jewish and Stalin got rid of most remaining Soviet Jews in the Great Purge. The census found 19,564 Jewish Bolsheviks; 5.21% of the total. It also found that of the 417 members of the highest Soviet political bodies (the Party’s Central Committee, the Presidium of the Executive, and the People’s Commissars), 6% were Jews. The total proportion of Jews in Russia at that time was approximately 2.5 million, out of a total population of around 145 million (so 1.7%)."

So what's going on?

Here's a Jew from the academic world writing about the Jewish hand in Russian Communism and the murders they perpetuated. But he lists specific names and a stat about about Jews making up 34% of senior security posts in 1934 Soviet Russia.

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

That's not good enough. That helps, a little. And it is a Jew writing about the wrongs of Jews: pretty much the only people who can get away with that in the academic world.

The "85%" claim comes from Solzhenitsyn's Two Hundred Years Together, a book that has no primary or secondary source for this claim. But this same book also says that the revolution was not a Jewish movement and condemns those theories. It states at the end of Chapter 9: "...have yielded to the temptation of simplistic explanation: Russia is fundamentally sound, and the whole revolution, from beginning to end, is a dark plot hatched by Jews, an episode of the Judeo-Masonic plot. Explain everything by one and the same cause: the Jews!…The superstitious belief in the historical force of conspiracies…leaves completely aside the main cause of failures suffered by individuals as well as states: human weaknesses…No, it cannot be said IN ANY CASE that it was the Jews who organized the revolutions of 1905 or 1917…”

But I FINALLY found a good source that does dive into the specific numbers and it doesn't use dubious antisemitic sources (this is important because in History, you have to use primary and secondary sources to make claims - not hearsay claims which have no credibility at all in academia):

https://yivoencyclopedia.org/article.aspx/Communist_Party_of_the_Soviet_Union

The above is a great source and it talks about the Jewish involvement in the Revolution as well as party membership. I think it is fair because it makes mention of the Jews who also opposed the communists (meaning, Jews were fighting Jews).

So while it was nowhere near 85% as claimed, they were still grossly overrepresented in the party and in leadership. As high as 30%+ of senior leadership in some cases. Seriously, read that whole article - it has great information.

You're welcome. Adjust your talking points to fit the best available facts. Do not parrot talking points that have long been debunked: the opposition uses factually incorrect talking points as evidence that we are "antisemitic idiots who vomit clearly wrong ideas in their crusade against Jews." Don't be "that guy" who speaks ignorant bullshit.

Edit - This source cites quite a few leaders but, obviously, the source wouldn't be accepted by anyone except for folks around here:

"With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews. Leon Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and — as chairman of the Central Executive Committee — head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev (Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Moisei Uritsky."

https://nationalvanguard.org/2020/10/newly-updated-the-jewish-role-in-the-bolshevik-revolution-and-russias-early-soviet-regime-part-1/

If Mormons were grossly overrepresented in positions of power, in one of the most murderous political parties in human history, we'd be quite suspicious and scared of Mormons, wouldn't we? So why is it so taboo to openly discuss the Jews' participation in the Bolshevik Party and Russian Revolution? Seems so so very odd. Makes you think.

If this is true, then it shouldn't be hard to find a list of their names. I can go back and look at all the congressmen who served in the US back to the 1800s, so it shouldn't be hard to "Name the Jew." But I've used duckduckgo and turned up little results. But I do find that Jews were overrepresented in the Bolshevik Party by a significant margin: "In 1922, the Bolshevik party took a census of its own ethnic composition. At this time, Jewish participation in Soviet affairs was at its highest; this was years before the Soviets turned anti-Jewish and Stalin got rid of most remaining Soviet Jews in the Great Purge. The census found 19,564 Jewish Bolsheviks; 5.21% of the total. It also found that of the 417 members of the highest Soviet political bodies (the Party’s Central Committee, the Presidium of the Executive, and the People’s Commissars), 6% were Jews. The total proportion of Jews in Russia at that time was approximately 2.5 million, out of a total population of around 145 million (so 1.7%)." So what's going on? Here's a Jew from the academic world writing about the Jewish hand in Russian Communism and the murders they perpetuated. But he lists specific names and a stat about about Jews making up 34% of senior security posts in 1934 Soviet Russia. https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html That's not good enough. That helps, a little. And it is a Jew writing about the wrongs of Jews: pretty much the only people who can get away with that in the academic world. The "85%" claim comes from Solzhenitsyn's **Two Hundred Years Together**, a book that has no primary or secondary source for this claim. But this same book also says that the revolution was not a Jewish movement and condemns those theories. It states at the end of Chapter 9: "...have yielded to the temptation of simplistic explanation: Russia is fundamentally sound, and the whole revolution, from beginning to end, is a dark plot hatched by Jews, an episode of the Judeo-Masonic plot. Explain everything by one and the same cause: the Jews!…The superstitious belief in the historical force of conspiracies…leaves completely aside the main cause of failures suffered by individuals as well as states: human weaknesses…No, it cannot be said IN ANY CASE that it was the Jews who organized the revolutions of 1905 or 1917…” But I FINALLY found a good source that does dive into the specific numbers and it doesn't use dubious antisemitic sources (this is important because in History, you have to use primary and secondary sources to make claims - not hearsay claims which have no credibility at all in academia): https://yivoencyclopedia.org/article.aspx/Communist_Party_of_the_Soviet_Union The above is a great source and it talks about the Jewish involvement in the Revolution as well as party membership. I think it is fair because it makes mention of the Jews who also opposed the communists (meaning, Jews were fighting Jews). So while it was nowhere near 85% as claimed, they were still grossly overrepresented in the party and in leadership. As high as 30%+ of senior leadership in some cases. Seriously, read that whole article - it has great information. You're welcome. Adjust your talking points to fit the best available facts. Do not parrot talking points that have long been debunked: the opposition uses factually incorrect talking points as evidence that we are "antisemitic idiots who vomit clearly wrong ideas in their crusade against Jews." Don't be "that guy" who speaks ignorant bullshit. Edit - This source cites quite a few leaders but, obviously, the source wouldn't be accepted by anyone except for folks around here: "With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews. Leon Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and — as chairman of the Central Executive Committee — head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev (Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Moisei Uritsky." https://nationalvanguard.org/2020/10/newly-updated-the-jewish-role-in-the-bolshevik-revolution-and-russias-early-soviet-regime-part-1/ If Mormons were grossly overrepresented in positions of power, in one of the most murderous political parties in human history, we'd be quite suspicious and scared of Mormons, wouldn't we? So why is it so taboo to openly discuss the Jews' participation in the Bolshevik Party and Russian Revolution? Seems so so very odd. Makes you think.

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