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The links I provided are simply the passages right from the book. I think you are the one stretching it more than I am. I am providing the exact quotes, you are the one saying "oh well, you just don't understand the ideology behind it". If they meant something else, why did they write the "poverty is a virtue", "turn the other cheek", and so forth?

You can keep citing these "church fathers" (likely all Jews). Keep in mind that they had killed all the pagan's that could oppose them during the Inquisition and Crusades in Europe. Germany itself was converted by the SWORD in 800 AD. Don't think for a second your ancestors ever wanted to be Christian by choice. They were forced to Jews.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxon_Wars

"In 785, he issued the Capitulatio de partibus Saxoniae which asserted, "If any one of the race of the Saxons hereafter concealed among them shall have wished to hide himself unbaptized, and shall have scorned to come to baptism and shall have wished to remain a pagan, let him be punished by death."[4]"

These are the Church Fathers you refer to?


Deuteronomy: 49 The LORD will bring a nation from afar, from the ends of the earth, to swoop down upon you like an eagle— a nation whose language you will not understand, 50 a ruthless nation with no respect for the old and no pity for the young.… 51 They will eat the offspring of your livestock and the produce of your land until you are destroyed. They will leave you no grain or new wine or oil, no calves of your herds or lambs of your flocks, until they have caused you to perish.…

Durr, I wonder why all my lands are filled with violent immigrants. It can't be because I tied myself into a spiritual program that invites this very thing to happen to me.

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You are the one interpreting that poverty is a virtue. Nobody has ever said or practiced this in the early Church. None of this is taught in Christian tradition. In fact Orthodox Christians are one of the most financially successful religious groups.

You're also an idiot because that passage of Deuteronomy is referring to punishment for forgetting God, abandoning Christianity and indulging in vice. Which is exactly what happened. The traditional Christian countries don't have these problems.

All of this is just you reading your own interpretations into the texts and then projecting that onto us. It's completely meaningless. And the whole "it says it right there in the text" is exactly what every person says to justify their idiotic interpretation. Christ consciousness? "It says it right there! You are all gods!" Salvation by faith alone "It says it right there! Faith without works!"

How about this, think of the most outlandish and stupid interpretation you can possibly imagine and I'll find a few verses to twist in support of it. You can literally interpret the Bible any way you want.

It's purely agenda driven nonsense and nothing else.

And the Church Fathers wrote volumes of texts critiquing Jews. You clearly haven't even read a word of their writings, yet your critiquing the faith that rests ENTIRELY on their writings. That alone is proof that you are a complete buffoon