That aspect of the knot was noted in that thread I copied the image from. I do like vests, but I also rarely have occasion to wear one. I don't know how this knot would look without an accompanying vest. It might look "faggy" as was also noted in that thread.
Luckily for me, I do have several extremely long ties that I acquired at some point. I'm going to try this out this coming week on them to see what length would be ideal for this knot to be used without a vest. I'd like to see how yours turns out if you do give it a shot!
Capital. I have a drawer of 'standard' ties, which I haven't touched since I started buying 'extra longs'. I refuse to wear even standards without a vest. My extras are well enough I can double or triple Windsor whilst keeping both ends shy of equal and resting at the pant button.
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