Copied from @daskapitalist's post: https://poal.co/s/TraditionalHusbands/487985
Full Windsor is good enough for me.
I'm with you.....it's solid and classic. That and I wouldn't want to look like a fag.
I've wanted to tie one of these for a while now. The only reason I haven't is due to what seems to be a the resultant 'short tie' effect which would demand a vest to hide it, and I rarely wear 3-pieces.
I may have to just do it to do it and post it.
That aspect of the knot was noted in that thread I copied the image from. I do like vests, but I also rarely have occasion to wear one. I don't know how this knot would look without an accompanying vest. It might look "faggy" as was also noted in that thread.
Luckily for me, I do have several extremely long ties that I acquired at some point. I'm going to try this out this coming week on them to see what length would be ideal for this knot to be used without a vest. I'd like to see how yours turns out if you do give it a shot!
Capital. I have a drawer of 'standard' ties, which I haven't touched since I started buying 'extra longs'. I refuse to wear even standards without a vest. My extras are well enough I can double or triple Windsor whilst keeping both ends shy of equal and resting at the pant button.
I know several guys who tie this regularly. There are three ways to solve 'short tie' problems:
1) The thinner side of the tie can be made really short (only a couple inches left once you finish tying it) and tucked into your dress shirt. Loosen a button below the hollow of your throat, tuck it in, and button again. Your tie is now long enough and the short little nub is hidden inside your shirt.
2) Wear a vest. In warmer weather, a vest + tie is much cooler than a jacket and tie and looks classy.
3) Get some longer ties. If you're not already old, go raid grandpa's tie rack. Older ties were longer for style and complex knots.
So the how is nailed, only need the why
I tied one of these a while back and good gosh it's hard to make look right!
I will definitely be giving it a try. It will likely turn out like crap on my first try, but if it looks decent on a full tie without an accompanying vest then I'll keep working at it to get it to look right like you did.
The frustrating part is you have to end up with just the right amount of main tie (so it ends at the right length) and the tail (which gets tucked up into the collar - so thick ties don't pull this off as well).
Best part about this is you can start the tie at about the length you want it, whereas with a normal knot its a guessing game
Looks hideous, pairs well with a neck beard and a fedora to tip to m'ladies.
![How To Tie An Eldredge Tie Knot [826x960 - 113KB]](https://pic8.co/sh/PyATYy.jpg){kind=link}
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