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The block functions sets a dire censorship precedent for Poal. (See full discussion HERE).

I propose that instead of outright blocking individual users, their replies and conversations are INSTEAD automatically collapsed so that their speech is not infringed upon by allowing the choice to see it, and that those blocking them don't have to see it if they choose not to.

In this way, both parties get what they want.

The block functions sets a dire censorship precedent for Poal. (See full discussion [HERE](https://poal.co/s/TellPoal/291278)). I propose that instead of outright blocking individual users, their replies and conversations are *INSTEAD* automatically collapsed so that their speech is not infringed upon by allowing the *choice* to see it, and that those blocking them don't have to see it if they *choose* not to. In this way, both parties get what they want.

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So we're clear, a cool down period before the blocked user can reply to the user who blocked him? That doesn't sound too bad.

Semi-related, I have concerns over a blocked user retaining his ability to shit up your posts. This more applies to the apparent change in my original comment.

It's difficult to do anything that covers every little loophole for someone aiming to subvert or otherwise do harm. Let me be clear in that I'm not advocating for any rule changes. I don't trust the admins nor their transparency in how site rules are applied. On top of that, several red users, present company excluded as far as I've seen, have stated their willingness to drop the soap if they thought it would please the admins. Poor leadership has caused site abandonment by good users thoroughly vetted on voat. I predict any noticeable changes enacted by the above mentioned will have a negative effect.

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Actually, I jokingly meant a penalty for those blocking users with increased time per quantity blocked, but yours is an interesting solution too: would allow them to put out their message, without being inundated by those that hate it, but this too is another form of censorship by delay.

I wholly disagree with blocking of any kind because I value scrutiny, which is the basis to ensure the strength of an idea. Only ideas that can be fully attacked with everything and survive can you ensure that it is worth following, which is how we got to a point in our society where men are women, because it was not allowed to be questioned -- it was not allowed scrutiny.

I regularly get into conversations with the dumbest of shills, because they are the ones whom need that scrutiny the most.

Don't mistake me for someone trying to make friends or allies here, I'm here to do my best to ensure that you all are strong, because I know what's coming and you need to be ready for it.

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Your wording made me think you meant a penalty for the person doing the blocking, but I figured something was lost in translation lol. I don't feel like preventing you from PMing me or me from seeing your "make $xyz per hour doing surveys" spam is censorship. That's just a personal choice as long as it doesn't stifle your ability to be seen by every other user. The problem I see is any rule that can actually stop a single clinically retarded user ends up censoring users, often multiple users, who don't need censored.

I agree with your stance on blocking for the most part. If you have to block someone you simply disagree with, you're weak. If you block the ultranewretromoderntechnomusicvids sub because you're not here for that, that's not quite the same thing. In my opinion, anyway. I browse all/new, and blocking a single sperg to free up several pages of shit per day has nothing to do with anything ideological.

For example, a dozen or so users blocked my quail sub. I highly doubt it was because they think cows are superior and couldn't handle arguing with me about it. They're probably just here for news or memes. Dumb, yes. Censorship maybe, but I doubt it. It does seem kind of weird, but whatever.

What you said about arguing with shills is spot on. These people need it. The qtards need it. The "everything is fine" people need it. Hell, you and I need it.

I think if people want to block users/subs/whatever, there should be transparency. We should be able to see a list of who you blocked or subs/users blocked by other users. People aren't shamed enough anymore for being pussies.

As for finding friends and allies here, I don't think this is the place for that. Spread information and ideas. While you're doing that though, maybe I could convince you to raise some tasty little birds for your family.

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People aren't shamed enough anymore for being pussies.

This exactly. There is no shame component for doing shameful things anymore.

I live in the city unfortunately so cant raise birds here, and I don't know if I could bring myself to raise them in a dresser drawer... I do plan on leaving within maybe a year where there's land, and want to raise some. I'll let you know when I'm ready.