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Edit: look at the twisted panties below, simply for not liking Trump

Read this first

The question wasnt: who gets the most butthurt after trump criticism and takes it personal.

I made 3 posts after AOU said to "get a room" once I reported Saba for calling me a pedophile (slander, not protected by the first amendment) using his admin post to relieve some political butthurt. This is the basis of this post.

And no, it was request to consider what could be defined as harrasment

They have a right to their opinion, just not expressing it by stalking and commenting about 10 times on everything you post. I didnt ask to stifle any opinions.

I like how you stickied your own drama post told, that was classy. You've also tried to censor my comments by saying they were irrelevant or needed sources

Its embarrassing.

Public decency, and a right to have your posts free from harrassment is a reasonable expectation.

Even if you block that person, others can see it and it is embarrassing to have someone follow you around posting 10+ comments everywhere you go.

Also, accusing every newcomer of being a "shit alt" will drive people away, as will what I've stated above

@pmyb2 @aou

I don't think this is a "free speech issue"

Edit: look at the twisted panties below, simply for not liking Trump [Read this first](https://poal.co/s/Niggers/128518/b295db87-e490-43f3-a46d-1c29b2fbb988#cmnts) The question wasnt: who gets the most butthurt after trump criticism and takes it personal. I made 3 posts after AOU said to "get a room" once I reported Saba for calling me a pedophile (slander, not protected by the first amendment) using his admin post to relieve some political butthurt. This is the basis of this post. And no, it was request to consider what could be defined as *harrasment* They have a right to their opinion, just not expressing it by stalking and commenting about 10 times on everything you post. I didnt ask to stifle any opinions. **I like how you stickied your own drama post told, that was classy. You've also tried to censor my comments by saying they were irrelevant or needed sources** --- Its embarrassing. Public decency, and a right to have your posts free from harrassment is a reasonable expectation. Even if you block that person, others can see it and it is embarrassing to have someone follow you around posting 10+ comments everywhere you go. Also, accusing every newcomer of being a "shit alt" will drive people away, as will what I've stated above @pmyb2 @aou I don't think this is a "free speech issue"

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[–] [Sticky] • 5 pts

Even if you block that person, others can see it and it is embarrassing to have someone follow you around posting 10+ comments everywhere you go.

Hypocrisy much?

You don’t seem to have a problem with your shitpost subs’ frens harassing other users here though.

poal.co/comment/search/AOU (that link will only work for level 30 - Red Barons)

I can understand that you and your frens don’t like being given your own medicine.

I don't think this is a "free speech issue"

It actually is.

You’re demanding for poal to become a safe space by censoring users you don’t like.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt (edited )

Read this first

The question wasnt: who gets the most butthurt after trump criticism and takes it personal.

I made 3 posts after you said to "get a room" once I reported Saba for calling me a pedophile (slander, not protected by the first amendment) using your admin post to relieve some political butthurt .

I know you're butthurt because I ruin your MAGA train hype, and you've never been able to dispute my sources.

Also, how did moving a post that the owner didn't want moved and mocking a user for "having feelings " work out for you?

Dont become putt jr: you're on that path, a few others see it too

And no, it was request to consider what could be defined as harrasment

They have a right to their opinion, just not expressing it by stalking and commenting about 10 times on everything you post. I didnt ask to stifle any opinions.

I like how you stickied your own drama post told, that was classy. You've also tried to censor my comments by saying they were irrelevant or needed sources

[–] • 4 pts

Keep crying

[–] • 10 pts

I don't think you can really have a policy about that without significantly infringing upon Poal's Free Speech policy and the stated ideals of this forum.

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

We need a creative solution then. Perhaps if you have more than two replies or posts about someone, the redundant ones get deleted.

[–] • 4 pts

Calling people out on it and letting the community downvote them as appropriate would probably be the best solution.

I haven't seen what you are speaking of, but I don't doubt that it happens.

[–] [deleted] • 6 pts

Down voting has not worked with this person in the past. He freely admits to making alts to up vote his posts to combat general opinion.

[–] • 2 pts

Why do you even want poal to grow?

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Antisocial behaviour is not free speech.

[–] • 7 pts

It kind of is tho.

[–] [deleted] • 7 pts

Agree. Those who contribute here would like to see poal grow. I invited 2 good users over and both were attacked when they turned up, one by suplex and the other by the town drunk.

[–] [deleted] • 5 pts

It would be nice to not have them around, but in reality, you can't avoid those kind of people. You're going to have to deal with them everywhere. Don't take them seriously, they're not really human.

I suggested to @Saba that he take his unbanning as a new start, try to be pleasant and fit in. You know how he responded to that.

So I ignore both of them for the most part and mock them when I get the chance. It's what Jesus would want me to do. Send your new people to /s/HailKirkland. It's a great sub.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

You cannot reason with alcoholics. Jesus loves you and he approves.

[–] • 1 pt

Ho come on you can block them problem solved

[–] [deleted] • 5 pts

Jewspergs, feds, and turd flingers ruined Voat. I'm fine with getting rid of them here. The quality of people make all the difference.

[–] • 5 pts

at some point, there must be a line drawn between what is free speech, and what is harassment. trolling in good fun is acceptable, as long as there is some form of consent, i would think. free speech was meant to improve truthful knowledge, and prevent tyranical despots from silencing critics, not shit up the threads with niggerish behavor. With that being said, trolling can be argued as freedom of expression and opinion, but at what point does it become harmful, not only to the individual, but to the community. We have shitbags to thank for this conversation, but some people who love to troll and harass, are actually decent people IRL. I think that the core issue here is maturity. Perhaps a maturity and consent policy is needed, versus trying to stop, what others would consider free speech. Were all adults here, and there is a group of people out there, who wish us harm, and love to see us bicker amongst ourselves. Were at war. we need to organize and unify. We cant fight together on the front lines, if were arguing in the mess tent.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

It's the same clique of addicts and they have a documented track record of doing it elsewhere. In my personal opinion they are paid to do it, addicts are very weak willed and easy to manipulate.

[–] • 4 pts

This is absolutely a non starter. Preventing people from expressing unpopular opinions(including how you have been making fun of some people), this absolutely is a speech issue I'm not sure how anyone could argue that it isn't? The first amendment is expressly for protecting speech that people don't like, otherwise it wouldn't be needed at all.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Generally, criminal harassment ententails intentionally targeting someone else with behavior that is meant to alarm, annoy, torment or terrorize them.

Although different scholars view unprotected speech in different ways, there are basically nine categories:

Obscenity

Fighting words

Defamation (including libel and slander)

Child pornography

Perjury

BlackmailI

ncitement to imminent lawless action

True threats

Solicitations to commit crimes

Some experts also would add treason, if committed verbally, to that list. Plagiarism of copyrighted material is also not protected.

[–] • 2 pts

Yes and unless it contains a specific threat as far as I'm aware online speech isn't criminal harassment. Being annoying is not criminal harassment unless you can site a specific court case I'm not buying that. Also Fighting words unless you count a credible threat.

This is about you not wanting to deal with a behavior you yourself have committed. I would advise being the change you want to see. The kirkland sub come on man?

I guarantee the people supporting this idea to begin with have not even really considered taking it too its logical conclusion. Supporting free speech inherently means supporting speech you do not like. If you only support it for yourself then you never really supported it in the first place.

I've seen people post some monstrous speech on this site. Wishing death on kids as an example I hate that speech but I support those peoples right to say it.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt (edited )

So:

  • do you think criminal libel and harrasment laws are unconstitutional?

  • do you think it is a good idea to allow others to accuse pedophila?

  • I modded a shit ton of people to Kirkland, so you guys could see theres a consensus that he has been detrimental to everyone's experience here

  • where did I comment on any of his posts, besides the ones people pinged me in?

Even ivan agrees, he is a paid shill.

[–] [deleted] • 3 pts

you mean like how you all harassed me??

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

I do admit the antisemitism is getting waaaaay out of hand

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Wernicke Korsakoff combined with narcissistic personality disorder is a hell of an affliction.

[–] • 2 pts

MUH FEELINGS

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

I'm mostly interested to know how much someone can be a nuisance someone can be before someone has a right to be free of that.

[–] • 3 pts

On the internet there are no safe spaces

[–] • 2 pts

@pmyb2 @aou this would be a nice thing

[–] • 4 pts

Absolutely not. You are literally suggesting limits on legal speech.

[–] • 2 pts

as if moving posts from one sub to a shitposting sub is not limiting free speech?

[–] • 1 pt

Have you tried blocking them?

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Yes, but the constant wave of comments ruins my posts and distracts anyone who looks at them.

[–] • 2 pts

When someone is being a gigantic faggot, pretty much everyone notices.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

What about the new users this person has been following around and harrasing?

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