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But Bill Farley, an archaeologist at Southern Connecticut State University in New Haven, says the paper has not provided evidence that an advanced civilization existed during the last ice age. The 27,000-year-old soil samples from Gunung Padang, although accurately dated, do not carry hallmarks of human activity, such as charcoal or bone fragments, he says. Archaeological records show that the transition from hunter-gatherer societies to complex societies occupying large settlements occurred after the commencement of the Holocene 11,700 years ago. The oldest known city is the 9,000 year old site of Çatalhöyük in what is now Turkey.

This man is an idiot. Charcoal and bone fragments are not the kind of evidence of human activity an advanced civilization leaves behind.

The big thing archaeologists like him are missing is the recurring global catastrophe that happens about every 12,000 years.

> But Bill Farley, an archaeologist at Southern Connecticut State University in New Haven, says the paper has not provided evidence that an advanced civilization existed during the last ice age. The 27,000-year-old soil samples from Gunung Padang, although accurately dated, do not carry hallmarks of human activity, such as charcoal or bone fragments, he says. Archaeological records show that the transition from hunter-gatherer societies to complex societies occupying large settlements occurred after the commencement of the Holocene 11,700 years ago. The oldest known city is the 9,000 year old site of Çatalhöyük in what is now Turkey. This man is an idiot. Charcoal and bone fragments are not the kind of evidence of human activity an advanced civilization leaves behind. The big thing archaeologists like him are missing is the recurring global catastrophe that happens about every 12,000 years.

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Imagine what they would find if they looked on the ocean floor (down to about 200-300' deep). Sea level has previously been much lower (and sometimes a bit higher) than it currently is. Given the current long term (Milankovitch) cycles, Earth spends most of its time in a much colder state, with significantly lower sea levels with only relatively brief periods of higher sea levels. Around 30-40 thousand years ago, sea levels were about 100m lower than they currently are, with the current high sea levels only occurring in the last 20k years.

Most human civilizations congregate around the coasts of seas for access to transport, favorable weather for growing crops (less extremes due to the massive heat capacity of oceans) and sea food. Traces of civilizations that existed back then will likely be hard to find, but no main stream archeologist will ever look, because finding them would shatter their "consensus" view.