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The libertine French revolutionaries decided they wanted to do away with slavery in the colonies. Ostensibly this was to be non-ray-ray, though it was mainly for further destabilization of society and full disposure of the monarchy.

When Napoleon began taking power as aspiring dictator (but not yet emperor) he was like, "Well, that's a terrible idea, that will destroy everything we built the colonies to be," and undid that policy. This triggered the British to get involved because they ~~would use any excuse they could undermine Napoleon~~ were super non-ray-ray, and also the Spanish because ~~they were still clinging to what they could in the Caribbean as their empire declined and hurting the French helped that~~ also non-ray-ray.

Everyone else in Europe had been pretty happy that the Empire (as the Holy Roman Empire was simply known in its day, with the HR part really only added by historians to distinguish it) was basically dead, so when they saw that Napoleon was in effect attempting to revive it under the French flag they all ganged up on him and the Napoleonic wars broke out.

Since it was Napoleon vs basically everyone else in Europe the French and its legions military efforts were there and the colonies were largely unsupported, leaving Haiti to fall the revolutionaries.

Separately, is the issue of the Bois Caïman. Many evangelical types (see Pat Robertson, etc) often say Haiti made a pact with the devil for their successful revolution against the French, but ipso facto have been cursed ever since.

Whether or not you believe in pacts with the devil is up to you, but the existence of the Bois Caïman isn't a matter of dispute. Some of the details are debated, but it was a large Vodou ceremony that is generally considered at least the symbolic beginning of the Haitian revolution. The numbers are of debate, but all accounts put the participants in at least the hundreds, with it being a dedication ceremony to Vodou spirits. Some accounts claim ritual sacrifice and some that it included ritual rejection of the "white man's god" with destruction of crucifixes.

For your own research to draw your own conclusions good places to start would be Toussaint Louverture, a man who pledged himself to the revolutionary government in France and cuddled up to the British in order to advance his own power on the island, Charles Leclerc's (Napoleon's brother-in-law) misadventures in Haiti, and the Bois Caïman (AKA Bwa Kayiman).

The libertine French revolutionaries decided they wanted to do away with slavery in the colonies. Ostensibly this was to be non-ray-ray, though it was mainly for further destabilization of society and full disposure of the monarchy. When Napoleon began taking power as aspiring dictator (but not yet emperor) he was like, "Well, that's a terrible idea, that will destroy everything we built the colonies to be," and undid that policy. This triggered the British to get involved because they ~~would use any excuse they could undermine Napoleon~~ were super non-ray-ray, and also the Spanish because ~~they were still clinging to what they could in the Caribbean as their empire declined and hurting the French helped that~~ also non-ray-ray. Everyone else in Europe had been pretty happy that the Empire (as the Holy Roman Empire was simply known in its day, with the HR part really only added by historians to distinguish it) was basically dead, so when they saw that Napoleon was in effect attempting to revive it under the French flag they all ganged up on him and the Napoleonic wars broke out. Since it was Napoleon vs basically everyone else in Europe the French and its legions military efforts were there and the colonies were largely unsupported, leaving Haiti to fall the revolutionaries. Separately, is the issue of the *Bois Caïman*. Many evangelical types (see Pat Robertson, etc) often say Haiti made a pact with the devil for their successful revolution against the French, but ipso facto have been cursed ever since. Whether or not you believe in pacts with the devil is up to you, but the existence of the Bois Caïman isn't a matter of dispute. Some of the details are debated, but it was a large Vodou ceremony that is generally considered at least the symbolic beginning of the Haitian revolution. The numbers are of debate, but all accounts put the participants in at least the hundreds, with it being a dedication ceremony to Vodou spirits. Some accounts claim ritual sacrifice and some that it included ritual rejection of the "white man's god" with destruction of crucifixes. For your own research to draw your own conclusions good places to start would be Toussaint Louverture, a man who pledged himself to the revolutionary government in France and cuddled up to the British in order to advance his own power on the island, Charles Leclerc's (Napoleon's brother-in-law) misadventures in Haiti, and the Bois Caïman (AKA Bwa Kayiman).

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