This post will be long as fuck and I don't expect anyone to read it but maybe it will help you understand just how damaged most super fats are. I know there are exceptions to every rule. When I was in my 20s and after I worked construction and the military then I got an office job in my late 20s. 95% there were well on their way to becoming a super fat and had no physical foundation, no frame. That or they were skinny fat, never exercised a day in their life and ate horribly. Of course, I never had a problem with my weight because I always exercised but that changed when I started an office job working 50+ hours a week and taking care of my kids every waking(and sleeping hour when I wasn't at work) I never got any exercise. I ate all the pizzas doughnuts, drank soda on the night shift like everyone else did. It was free or cheap. Dealing with office stress all night, never moving you come home oddly enough super exhausted but your brain is still hyper active, causing constant sleep deprivation. It was a horrible office job and at the time I didn't understand there were a lot of males, especially in IT that didn't date, didn't have kids, hadn't been married and didn't even regularly get laid. It was hard to wrap my head around. I didn't understand or even realize that level of physical & social ineptitude or loneliness. I grew up in a rural area where there was a lot of hunting, fishing, hiking, camping, sports, etc. Moving to a liberal city, it was difficult to wrap my head around the kind of people that work in IT call centers. Within a little over a year I gained 50 lbs. My metabolism had screeched to a halt. What woke me up and fast was when my erections started to fade and I was sweating all over the place and getting out of breath anytime I had sex. I was in my late 20s. That was probably the one thing I had going for me when it came to the ladies because it sure as Hell wasn't the money I made. As tired as I was, I looked my ass off for another job. I now had some IT experience and I got a job as a regional field tech. I was making more money, only had to work 1 job but more importantly, I walked a couple of miles a day, got up on ladders and did some lifting. I quit drinking all soda. I quit eating at buffets. I quit eating french fries or deep friend foods. I lost all that weight in about 16 months and was back down to a 4 pack. Well over a decade later, I've never gained it back. I keep a 4 to 6 pack at all times. Here is what I learned during my short time as a fatbody: Your mood swings are up and down. Depression hits you. Your erections aren't solid and even when you take something, like a viagra, your belly takes inches off your manhood. You are sensitive, moreso than you can imagine. You don't have 'emotional stability.' You get tired easier. Something like mowing the lawn, that today is nothing for me at 40, when I was a fatass in my late 20s that would fuck me up for 2 days. You can't handle heat well at all. You sweat fast, especially during physical activity. You get out of breath fast. My feet and my knees hurt more. For the first time in my life I started having back pain. It does all kinds of shit to your body, like throws your testosterone and estrogen levels way off. Worse, you don't know who the fuck you are from one day to the next. Understand that I had my kids. I had a physical foundation from years of military PT, school PT, school sports, construction and I was briefly a pro-athlete. A lot of these guys that are super fats or skinny fats now never even had to PT regularly in school. They never played sports. They have no shoulders, no traps, etc. My weight gain was relatively brief and before that I was in shape. My life wasn't great but I was happy with what I was doing, why I was doing it(my kids). I can't imagine being that out of shape for years, having no kids, no wife or some women who cuckolds you and just uses you for company, food or money. I was lucky when all of this happened. I've seen other white men that made more money or had less bills at the time go to the doctor and get meds. I didn't do that. They often believe they suffer from a bad thyroid or that they're depressed because they have ADD or they are depressed and need SSRIs. They think they're bi-polar. DOCTORS tell them this. EVERYTHING THEY SEE ON TV, INTERNET, etc reinforces this. A lot of them self medicate with weed, which often causes them to eat more or alcohol, which causes them to consume more calories, slows their metabolism, hinders their immune system and also causes them to eat more. Being in IT about 15 years now, I've seen this happen time and time again to guys. I've seen relatives of mine that were fit, emotionally stable and rational enter college, start taking ADD meds to help them with school then still gain 35 lbs in school. In college people often trade pills and drink. Then they get out of college, get an office job, use weed to deal with depression, take more Rx meds and end up gaining more weight. I was lucky, lucky my job didn't pay more and lucky I had my kids. Had my job paid more, I may have went to the doctor seeking help, almost did but I grinned and bared it all, used what little energy I had to look for another job. At the time, this was years ago, the horrible effects of Rx drugs and obesity weren't as known as they are now. This is before over half the country became mounds of morbidly obese bird shit and the big Rx pill epidemic was just getting into full swing. Most can't understand exactly how fucked up the minds are of these people. Throw in constant, hard SSRI use, ADD meds(legal meth) use, constant weed or alcohol smoking. But more than that, think about the blood sugar and blood pressure spikes and drops. Think about how fucked up they are chemically when they're morbidly obese, how out of whack all of their body chemistry is, be it estrogen or T levels. It's a place of insanity and excuses, physical and mental weaknesses that lead to a downward spiral most never recover from. The problems sexually I talked about men having... it's even worse with the ladies. That's why they have to date Joe Dirt or Shaq and almost always have to get high when they fuck. Anytime you deal with a death fat you are dealing with a depressed, bi-polar, lethargic, unsightly, smelly lard ass who is undoubtedly on several different medicines and/or illegal drugs. You are staring into the mouth of madness. This is why these people have no concept of privacy. They'll look right over at your phone while you're texting. They'll stalk you online. They're spread rumors about anyone just to get someone else to listen to them. This person is unstable in every way. They have a severely limited lack of self awareness and they are extremely insecure. Many have no inner dialogue. They make up for their crippling insecurities in different ways like an overly 'zany' personality or by being an asshole or by believing they are somehow morally superior or far more intelligent than everyone else. Reality is they're a fat dump truck about to break down, struggling, hanging on by a cunt hair every single day. They're sad people. There is no helping them. They can rarely, if ever, help anyone in any shape, way or form but always believe that all they do is help. This is why they love to talk about how intelligent or kind they are, why they love to virtue signal. They can only hurt others though and any fighting with them will almost certainly lead to you having a life long stalker and enemy, as they won't let it go because they have nothing to lose. Their life can't get any worse. However, I understand that it's impossible to deal with them without hating them. They constantly have to have attention in any form they can get it. They have a need to matter to everyone at all times. They're an impediment and a detriment to any and everyone they are around. They're a financial, moral and emotional black hole. Think about the worst time in your life, maybe someone really close dying, maybe a horrible divorce, maybe an eating disorder.. think about how sad, angry or unstable you were. These people live in that space for YEARS and DECADES even. This is why almost every single one of them is an addict of some kind, on top of being a food addict. Most of them have several addictions be it gambling, sex, anti-depressants, ADD meds, crack, alcohol, weed or whatever else keeps that leaky raft floating another few years until it finally sinks. Think about how many fat, frumpy IT guys in offices you see with bad teeth but you know that guy makes more than enough money to get his teeth fixed. Yet, he doesn't. Almost every one of those guys are pedos and almost every single one of them, the only thing stopping them is a combination of fear and a lack of energy. They are what they appear to be. That 'zany fat bitch' the one that tries to do the fear grimaces is literally a drugged up psychopathic whale. This is why I tell people over, over and over again to watch your food, watch your drinks around any of them. I have literally listened in on them many times bragging about poisoning people. I have seen groups of IT guys spy on customers, stalk their families, etc etc. Whatever 'worst' thing you can think about these people, it's probably true. They fit their stereotypes almost every single time. Always assume in any office they're leaving listening devices around. Always assume they're stalking your social media. Always assume if they don't like you they will hate you forever, talk shit about you forever. Tell someone they're fat and an elephant never forgets because IT DOESN'T. See them 10 years later and they still haven't had a single win in their life and moved on.