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I kind of fast every day for decades because I only eat dinner. But I was listening to an athlete talking about how he fasts for 5 days when his sport is on the offseason.

Do you fast? If so why? How long? Do you only drink water? What do you believe this can do for you?

Also this guy was saying it seems harder for people who go through sugar withdrawal. I just avoid sugar anyway because I don’t like the taste of anything with a lot of sugar in it. But sugar gets in from vegetables, sauces, etc.

I kind of fast every day for decades because I only eat dinner. But I was listening to an athlete talking about how he fasts for 5 days when his sport is on the offseason. Do you fast? If so why? How long? Do you only drink water? What do you believe this can do for you? Also this guy was saying it seems harder for people who go through sugar withdrawal. I just avoid sugar anyway because I don’t like the taste of anything with a lot of sugar in it. But sugar gets in from vegetables, sauces, etc.

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[–] 6 pts (edited )

Yes, It is necessary. Every time you eat, your body goes into digestion mode and ties up most resources, especially with the shit quality of food that most people eat.

When you stop eating, after 2-3 days (varies by person) you enter autophagy. This is literally a cleanup for your body. It recycles dead and dysfunctional cells. If you have been running your body on glucose, it now runs on stored fat. All of those inflammatory chemicals in shit like seed oils that are hard on the body, well they get stored in fat cells because the body never gets a chance to deal with them because more shit food is constantly being introduced to the system and has to be dealt with. When you burn those fat cells, the stored shit inside is released. Some people feel sick at this point, it is only because you now have to deal with the shit that was "swept under the rug".

Drinking a lot of water is vitally important for this process. Your body is breaking down cells and dealing with waste. If you are constantly chugging water, your body takes the opportunity to use it s a carrier and dump that shit so you can piss it away.

If it is your first time, you will feel very hungry for the first 2-3 days. When the body stops sending the hunger signals is when you know you're on the easy side of it now, and the body is burning fat and cleaning house. Once you get there, it is easy to continue.

After fasting, start eating very well: organic cruciferous vegetables and grass fed grass finished beef, all cooked in tallow or high quality olive oil. If you go back to eating shit food, you are not going to feel good. Once you go through the fast, and start eating, it is very easy to get by eating one large meal per day. If you only eat that one meal around 5-6 p.m., then you are only digesting once per day, and you won't be doing it while you sleep, you won't feel tired after lunch because there is no lunch. You regain a lot more energy because now you are actually living and not just dealing with the consequences of always eating shitty food to need feel really full and always having a bunch of shit flowing around in your body.

Doing a 3 or 4 day fast once a month is highly beneficial, some people do it more and there is nothing wrong with that.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

Drinking water is not important when it comes to fasting. It will hurt the body if anything. When your body burns fat that chemical process produces it's own water, pure water which is why you need to be in ketosis before you fast. The body doesn't recycle dead cell, it eats them, that's what autophagy means. How you break a fast is also very important. I usually eat my homemade yogurt and sprouts. The yogurt for your crap factory and the sprouts are for the needed enzymes that the body is now craving. Again, read The Phoenix Protocol. It explains all.

[–] 1 pt

Big caveat with the waterless fasting: if you know all of your organs are in top top shape, proceed. If you maybe partied a bit too hard in your younger days, drank a lot of booze and ate a bunch of shit food, the dry fast will be quite hard, a bunch of water will help with that. I agree that the dry fast is far superior (it is not even close) but when dealing with someone who has never fasted before, it is probably safe to assume that they didn't have the best lifestyle up to that point, so the water will help with the kidneys and liver. Also, having water won't knock you out of ketosis, but having even water in the belly can make it a lot easier for the first timer to get through it and achieve the benefits hidden past those first few days.

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I second the phoenix protocol, I've done it as has my wife, with success, its tough but worth it. In fact probably I need to do it again.

If you go keto first and build up to it, not so tough. I started with 24 hours. A week later I did 48 hours. 2 weeks later I did 72 hours. Now I just do 72 hours twice a month.

[–] [deleted] 4 pts (edited )

If you decide to fast the first thing you want to do is to go keto first. Once you get the body burning fat, fasting is easy. Look up The Phoenix Protocol. You will want to dry fast for better autophagy. Found it. A great read on the subject. https://archive.org/details/the-phoenix-protocol-dry-fasting-by-a-dunning-pdfdrive I do a 72 hour dry fast twice a month. The first thing that I noticed is that my skin feels normal, smooth and not dried out.

[–] 0 pt

Dry fast for 3 days? lol only listen to this guy if you want to get kidney stones and die.

[–] 3 pts

I do fast for 3~4 days, twice a month. I only drink mineral water when I do.

[–] 3 pts (edited )

I have a very good fasting strategy that works great! I eat when I wakeup, lunch and a small diner. Then, I fast for 6 hours. I then break my fast. Been doing this all my life.

[–] 2 pts

Not a proponent, makes me hungry and feel like shit.

[–] 2 pts

How are small guys supposed to fast? My metabolism has always been stupid fast. Putting weight on is dang near impossible. My BMI was 8 last time it was checked iirc.

[–] 1 pt

Skip either lunch or dinner on your weekends. Less work, less need for food

[–] 2 pts

I loathe fasting bc when I do it, it is usually in preparation for an event or somewhere I know my shirt will come off like BB competition, beach, boating, or trail running. I do like the mental clarity from my fasts though.

When I fast, I'm already in a weakened lethargic state and use dry fasting as an added tool which is great for going from 10% body fat to 6%. I'll usually carb load a few days before in order to get the most conversion and use of glycogen as possible without muscles becoming 'flat.'

If not for autophagy and a reset of my gut biome, I would much rather take a few weeks at 1200 calories a day to get my body dysmorphia under control, since fasting is aggravating to do when dating or having to be around other people constantly.

As far as the sugar aspect you mentioned, I don't eat fruits or veggies (unless grown myself or by friends) and choose to supplement any missing minerals/vitamins I need. I figure there's enough sugar alcohols in the protein drinks I partake in that trick my brain into thinking it's getting sugar anyways which I only partake of when I need extra calories and too lazy to eat.

[–] 2 pts

I've not found a single protein supplement that I will use anymore now that I know what all that extra shit is they put in it. BTW, stevia is detrimental to your gut too, and lasts in your gut for months

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For close to a decade I used whey powder from a bulk food manufacturer. 40 kilos for 80 bucks. Tasted like spoiled cheese and an absolute menace to mix but insane protein to calorie ratio without any added fake sugars and flavorings. Now the same 40 kilos is about 400 bucks plus 80 shipping. Just not worth it to me. Interesting about stevia. I have never tried it or anything with it inside but I will pay extra attention to it now. Appreciate that tidbit of knowledge bc I think most of my hormone fluctuations and lethargy happens from bad gut biome.

[–] 1 pt

I do intermittent fasting daily. Start at like 10_12 hours no eating. Easily doable. Think not eating after 8pm and no food until to 8am. Easy 12 hours. If you get hungry at night, brush your teeth instead. Most people are too lazy to eat after that. Then dial back the hours. No food after 7, no food until after 9am. Keep pushing AM back until it is lunch. You spoke keep your eating window to like 6 hours a day.
Short term your body can't distinguish between liquid and solid. Drink some water, black coffee, green tea etc whenever you feel hungry. Most people eat because it is habit. Oh it's lunchtime, I'll have a sandwich, but are you actually hungry or eating because you normally do. Someone mentioned eating OMAD and 5-6pm time (One Meal a Day). That's a great strategy. Forget the 'starvation mode' bullshit the fat harpies spew. Work on the intermittent fasting (16+ hours) and try a few days a week with OMAD and then you can more readily do a 2 to 5 day fast.

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I’ve never tried. Always been interested in that stuff.

I’ve read the parasite pill and the cosmic death fungus docs and if I ever tried it, it would be from that angle. The secular views on biblical fasting are super interesting as well which I think kind of ties it all together in a way

[–] 1 pt

Not good for building muscle.

[–] 1 pt

It's very good for you. I fast once a month for 24 hours. And I would say that is the minimum one should be doing.

If you have self control, you can and should. Not everyone else has self control, but that's not your problem. Go one day being grumpy, hungry, it won't kill you.

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