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Has anyone found any good research on this? It sounds pretty obvious what the deal is but haven't come across any good articles or research results to verify my gut feeling .

Has anyone found any good research on this? It sounds pretty obvious what the deal is but haven't come across any good articles or research results to verify my gut feeling .

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Natural is better with most supplements but it's difficult to get the amount your body really needs without supplements. Natural & synthetic (ascorbic acid) have different rates of bioavailabilty depending on your diet, glucose levels, fiber intake, amount of omega 3 you take at same time as your Vit C, and/or use of grapefruit juice effectively while supplementing.

Grapefruit juice can block the action of intestinal CYP3A4, so instead of being metabolized quickly, more of the Vit C enters bloodstream and stays in the body longer till it is processed. This is extremely useful with certain meds or vitamins you may want to get more 'bang for your buck' from. Or if you are on any big pharma meds it may hurt you if you don't know what you are doing or don't get blood tested regularly to check liver function.

Off the top of my head I can not recall the exact bioavailability numbers of vitamins but many years ago found the numbers to be extremely low (less than 40%) compared to how many milligrams/micrograms is listed per dose on the bottle.

Good articles or research results? They are literally everywhere

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Thanks for the information . Not on any meds. Ketogenic / very low carb diet . Been for several years . Not once gotten sick during this time as opposed to the time before. If any flulike symptoms just two days of C+zinc and it's over. Ive ´found articles saying they're all the same and articles saying they're not .

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Chemical structure is the same for natural & synthetic and there are differences in bioavailabilty but minimal and not enough to matter.

As far as combating sickness w/ C+zinc I do not have enough anecdotal evidence to help as I have not been sick w/ cold or flu in over 2 decades.

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Nothing anecdotal about it, it's a chemical reaction in the blood stream. If you don't know about vitamin C, I'm not sure why you're giving advice on it? You're regurgitating the same shit off the side of a vitamin c box.

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You have not researched vitamin C specifically. You do not understand the mechanism of vitamin C fighting infection. Your understanding of it is wrong as you compare it to other supplements as though they are similar. They are not and vitamin C is not like any other supplement. To fight infection, you must take pure vitamin C to bowel tolerance, without the high blood concentration, you are not utilizing vitamin C's most powerful mechanism.

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Lmao. Qtard trying to give relevant input...

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Rabbi using ad hominem because you can't defend your position. Nice!

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I use pure ascorbic acid crystal powder mixed into water.

There are also multiple functions of vitamin c.

One function is a building block for tissue and similar. This is your 1-3 grams daily.

One function is fighting infection. This requires the highest achievable blood concentration. Your bowels limit this if taken orally and can take as much as 4-5 grams an hour to reach bowel tolerance. Intravenously you can go as high as 100 grams of vitamin C in an IV.

As a building block, a natural vitamin C would be better because of the many other nutrients that accompany it.

As an infection fighter, you want pure vitamin C as the quantities needed quickly add up. I've gotten sick before and taken 40 grams of vitamin C in less than a 24 hour period.

Linus Pauling is a great start down the vitamin C pill. Theres also Dr. Klenner too.

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Thanks for the input . I use it (synthetic) combined with zinc to fight infection . Successfully . Just want to know if it's more of a placebo effect than an actual victory ... Rosehip might be the best natural source of vitamin C but not easily available for me . Sure to check out those names, thanks .

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Zinc is a building block. And should not be taken in high doses.

Vitamin C when used to fight infection should be taken in much higher doses. You should not NOT take these higher doses with anything other than pure vitamin c. Vitamin C strips the lipid layer off viral particles and allows your body to attack the now recognizable particle. To acheive this blood concentration you'd have to be taking at least a gram every hour. Your body processes vitamin C quickly so taking it every hour is a must when you are sick, otherwise you're not utilizing the vitamin c to fight infection. Any improvement you have felt is likely due to the zinc you are taking and not the vitamin C. To utilize vitamin C to fight infection, you must reach bowel tolerance and stay there until symptoms subside.

When I get sick I can feel when I need to take more vitamin c, usually about every 45 minutes for me.

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2lbs of vitamin C is less than $40 and will last you a couple of years. Fuck the stupid rosebud shit and all the other hype. Pure ascorbic acid crystals are just as effective as anyother vitamin C. Probably better because it's pure crystals that are almost instantly absorbed by the body. Anyone talking "bioavailable" is fucking retarded and do not know what they are talking about. These are chemicals that react in a certain way as certain as the sun comes up. So theres no he said she said. It's acheive blood concentration "X amount of vitamin c" per ml of blood will react with Y. You can literally turn your sickness on and off by your intake of vitamin C.

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4-5 grams an hour to reach bowel tolerance.

Does exceeding bowel tolerance do what I think it does?

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Don't trust a fart, you WILL shart.