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How about some objective facts? Remember when one points the finger at one group, there are three fingers pointing back. Identity politics is morally wrong and objectionable.

How about some objective facts? Remember when one points the finger at one group, there are three fingers pointing back. Identity politics is morally wrong and objectionable.

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Acting as if all people can be separated from their genetics because of an ideal is optimistic at best. Culture is downstream from genetics. You can not bring tribal elements into a society based on the ideals of logic and justice and expect the magic soil to change them. It does not. There is ample evidence of this. Your hope that it's true is not enough to make it true.

Cultures built on sentiment, will never embrace logic. They will always be tribal. Tribal survival is more important to them than justice. Logic is overwhelmed by sentiment. With jews, it's the fact that their father is Satan who is also the father of the lie. They are, quite literally, the people of the lie. How will you reconcile that with logic and justice?

magic soil

The magic is the rules. Which traits to reward, which traits to punish. Who gets to live and who has to die. Nature always sets such rules. But society can do this too.

Everything in the world keeps changing. Our cells aren't an exception. From birth to death, all our cells keep mutating. Without the rules to differentiate between good and bad, every race will inevitably become unstable.

When the same trait can be produced or strengthen by different genes, an offspring would be better than the parents. When the difference between good and bad is known and rewarded, even diversity will bring strength.

When the rules are known and followed, races become irrelevant. When the rules are forgotten, even the strongest race will destroy itself.

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No. In 1000 generations Africans will never be White. They were in Africa as long or longer than Europeans were in Europe, yet, they were/are culturally stunted. They've been living among Whites for hundreds of years, and they are culturally stunted. They've taken over White countries, and they are still culturally stunted. You are engaging in wishfull thinking. There's no evidence that niggers today are any different than the niggers marched off the boats to this new land 350 years ago.

They were in Africa as long or longer than Europeans were in Europe, yet, they were/are culturally stunted.

Dirt that only feeds diligent workers and kills assholes is more magical than dirt that feeds everyone and kills people randomly, you say? What a surprise.

No. In 1000 generations Africans will never be White.

There are Africans born with white skin today. Even when both parents are black. They often get eaten.

They've taken over White countries, and they are still culturally stunted.

No they haven't? Just because your leaders give them free food to please your women, doesn't mean that they have any real power.

They've been living among Whites for hundreds of years, and they are culturally stunted.

Survival there is even easier than in Africa. White brains are smaller than in the past.

There's no evidence that niggers today are any different than the niggers marched off the boats to this new land 350 years ago.

We know that all cells mutate over time. What other evidence do you need?

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I always use the term Beelzebub. Why? Lord of the flies. And what do flies congregate on, and eat? SHIT! Ergo, Lord of the shit eaters!

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Tribalism surrenders itself to self-interests. Morals and ethos although they may serve one's self interests at times does not surrender itself solely to self interests.

Identity politics primarily separates people because of their "genetics." I refuse to participate.

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You're not going to have a choice. Your participation will be chosen for you. Your skin is your uniform.

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A choice always exists. Whether one likes the consequences of said choice is a different matter.

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Tribalism is fundamentally self interested. That we are a biologically hardwired to work in the interests of family and kin is well documented, and it arises from genetics - the more genes you have in common with someone, the more rewarding helping them is. Helping someone who shares all of your genetics to succeed in life is biologically identical to succeeding in life yourself.

Individuals might personally be brainwashed to work against their genetic self interest here and there, but groups trend towards collaboration with genetic relatives. The existence of firefighters does not change the reality that people are more likely to save their own children from a burning building than risk their lives for someone else's children.

This is why tribalism leads to stable, functional, cultures because it works with this fundamental reality of human nature - to help your family is to help yourself, and a tribe is ultimately a family unit.

Humanism, like communism, will always fail because morality and ethos always give out to self interest over time, especially in times of deprivation, and groups will always trend towards acting in their own self interest on a statistical level. "Thou shalt not steal" lasts exactly as long as your children have enough to eat. You cannot build a society on the assumption that everyone is a firefighter.