Welcome • User Guide
ToS • Privacy • Canary
Donate • Bugs • License

©2024 Poal.co

182

That their mostly White male audience don't want to play as African midgets with pink hair or something like that. (pic8.co)

https://www.gamepressure.com/newsroom/baldurs-gate-3-devs-disappointed-with-lack-of-player-creativity/zf263d

That their mostly White male audience don't want to play as African midgets with pink hair or [something like that.](https://pic8.co/sh/O3F3DV.png) https://www.gamepressure.com/newsroom/baldurs-gate-3-devs-disappointed-with-lack-of-player-creativity/zf263d

(post is archived)

[–] • 14 pts

How long will these developers be able to attack their main audience before their sales start tanking

[–] [deleted] • 9 pts (edited )

Here's what the Dev said without all the asinine journalism attached:

"We took the most popular choices in character creation and recreated this. We thought our analytics system wasn’t working! We checked. It is. Congratulations, you’ve basically made the default Vault Dweller. What the hell guys. We gave you demon eyes, horns, and even tails. We are sorely disappointed. Go crazy. We worked hard on this! "

[–] • 12 pts

I get that, but still there’s nothing wrong in trying to recreate yourself in-game.

[–] [deleted] • 4 pts

I just don't know what they expected. I assume they mean that they took the most popular combination of choices, because you can't really take independent ones and mix them together, as there are dependencies. So it's obvious that the most overlap is going to be with the consistent "self-insert" rather than the weird characters.

[–] • 10 pts

Lets say 15% of the choices every player made were exotic, meaning players built characters with things like tails/horns/demon eyes, but they didnt go full autist checking every exotic box with a demon tail/dragon head eye sore.

So 15% silly choices and 85% “boring choices” for this example. If that was the case, when the algorithm was run, rhe average build would look like example given even if every individual character had some exotic feature.

The developer is probably trying to make some social justice point that white people are boring, but the premise he is making the point on is faulty and quite frankly, stupid.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

the premise he is making the point on is faulty and quite frankly, stupid.

Exactly.

[–] • 1 pt

Sucks, I hope they learn from this. I have no faith that they will, but I hope.

[–] • 1 pt

Their main audience would seem to be NPCs just like the characters in their games, so forever.

[–] • 3 pts (edited )

There's been a number of good games recently, but since the default character is either an "empowered" female, some ugly mulatto nog, a lesbian or a transexual, I'm just not interested in playing them. Even the girl in Horizon Zero Dawn was either 'uncanny valley' levels of disturbing or just a bit annoying to look at.

I don't want a hentai selection, just some basic levels of attractiveness. Everyone in Cyberpunk looked fine (and that included alt gay storylines), so they can do it.

I'm sick of the gaslighting, like they pretend to just have "normal people" but they don't, it's a patently obvious agenda push to include at least one nog and one SJW in every game now. And you can tell who their target audience is because if you dare criticise the game, then a boat load of Reddit faggots appear and start screaming.

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts (edited )

it's a patently obvious agenda push to include at least one nog and one SJW in every game now.

Yeah, the only properly good-aligned character out of the five main chars is a black guy.

This is also the default (presenting) preset for human atm. (pic8.co) But the weird thing is the defaults for Elves & Half-Elves are European-looking.

[–] • 2 pts

Yeah, the only properly good-aligned character out of the five main chars is a black guy.

yep, like in every advert now the good/rich/adventurous guy is a nog and the stupid/bad/slothful guy is White

The annoying thing is that nogs don't even play these types of games. The whole magical/fantasy kingdoms theme is based on Ancient North European mythology - nogs have zero culture and wouldn't culturally identify with any of that, they could play as giant squirrels and it would mean about as much to them.

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts (edited )

yep, like in every advert now the good/rich/adventurous guy is a nog and the stupid/bad/slothful guy is White

Pretty much. He's a renown hero but his character flaw is that was only because of a vengeful pact with a succubus.
Where as the White guy companion is a morally ambiguous wizard that turned himself into a nuke by accident, and there's also a flamboyant vampire.

https://onlinenewseurope.eu/of-course-baldurs-gate-3s-most-romanced-character-is-the-smug-wizard-rock-paper-shotgun/

There is a pretty obvious insert of the Refugee Crisis in the story too, it occupies the main plot of the first act, but it's so bias and doesn't tackle any real world issues people have with the migrant invasions.

[–] • 1 pt

I tried Star Wars Squadrons, it was a free PS Plus game... But the characters were all fucking Minori-Team. There was maybe one white skin and that was so gender ambiguous that it looked melted. Closest to a white person was an Asian.

Uninstalled.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEWCBjXFWsA lol wtf La creatura (pic8.co)

Yeah, Larian's not as bad as this. Star Wars got fucked so bad by it's new owners that it made me retroactively dislike Star Wars.

[–] • 0 pt

And every "scientist" character needs to be black, often a woman as well.

[–] • 2 pts

Even niggers on welfare, lesbians on rainbows, jew boys on JIDF, homos on antidepressants and trannys under psychotherapy want to be normal White men.

...It's kind of sad when you think about all those lost souls.

HAHA!!! ...not really. Fuck them.

[–] • 1 pt

It's starting to sound like character creation will be next on the chopping block.

[–] • 1 pt

I returned New World due to the base character being a troon. didn't even care to make my own changes.

if that's how a games going to start its not worth playing

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

I didn't know that. How to ruin a colonisation simulator.

[–] • 1 pt

If you insist on reading it that way. All they said is they were disappointed players didn't use more of the ornaments they included. Nothing about complaining that it was a white male or anything.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt (edited )

There is no ornament feature. The example described is one of the fantasy races, which is a demon. I've seen how the character creator works and the options available, and what the defaults are set to, so that's probably what has skewed my perspective.

Ok, what is classed as "creative" use of their character creator when they are looking at the most popular choices for playthroughs? What do you think they really hoped to see?

[–] • 0 pt

To start with, maybe they wanted people to use the different races? It's a fantasy role playing game, that offers different options. Of course, I think they are looking at it wrong. The most common choice can be "gamer reflection" and people can still be getting mileage out of the different options.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Of course, I think they are looking at it wrong. The most common choice can be "gamer reflection" and people can still be getting mileage out of the different options.

Yeah, I agree with that.

[–] • 0 pt

Why would you play anything else when you could be a white man? Gamers know, publishers USED to know. Don't change a winning look.

[–] • 0 pt

What no one seems to understand is that when you have many options they divide the attention amongst them so even if 99% of people choose other options, but each choosing different other options the 1% who all chose the base model to just start playing end up with the most common character.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt
[–] • 0 pt

In my defense, who reads all the comments before commenting?

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

I only brought it up because you wrote "What no one seems to understand." But yeah, it makes no sense, it's a meaningless experiment, and they are acting as if it means that everything else was 'untouched'.

[–] • 0 pt

Game developer is disappointed to find out most people do not desire to be a black trans demons complete with horns and tails, but wuld rather be what they are... white

[–] • 0 pt

It's not up to game devs to decide how gamers should game (unless they're hacking on a multiplayer server - that's a different condition where other people are included)

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

They are taking the wrong approach to the data they have. Instead, their approach should be - "Should we focus more on what is most popular in our consumer base and improve those areas?" They could add more variation within what they have found to be popular, for example. It goes either way, so if their consumers were mostly African, then it would make practical sense for them to tailor their product accordingly.

Load more (5 replies)