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And? Show me an instance where systemd can be used by a third party to control your computer or force uninstall software as Windows 10 currently does. And besides, you do realize that there ARE distros that do not use systemd, right?

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I'm fully aware. Security issues are documented.

Worth pointing out your position is closely inline with the historical nay says of windows issues.

My point being, we need a well supported mint and likes without systemd.

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Probably won't happen. Not if Linux contineus to grow as it does. systemd is now closely tied to the Linux gaming development. I've tried non-systemd distros, and they never game correctly. Do I like systemd? No. But I haven't seen anything from it that startles me the way Windows has since windows 7 onward

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systemd is now closely tied to the Linux gaming development. I've tried non-systemd distros, and they never game correctly.

Woah. I did not know that. I knew it was infecting many things. But hadn't realized it had reached such a point.

All the more reason...