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The mechanics of the game are not clear, and there will be random transitions into fights or whatever. Blah!

The information is scattered all over the place which is simply bad design.

The menus are poorly labeled with random crap in some of them... cannot tell whether this is intentional or not - but, in any event, why is it like this?

I'm kind of sitting on a 4.5/10 for this game. Not terrible, but definitely not a good game, and not worth 60 effing dollars.

Update:

I see bing has some ranking system it displays in it's search results when you and . Seems about right.

This game seems like a side project from rockstar.... regardless of the graphical production value - the overall experience makes it seem like a side project. I guess when one visits a big city, and they see all the fuck-around behavior it really is just that: a fuck around place where nothing productive is getting done.

think about it, they supposedly have these billions of dollars coming in, and with the over zealous hype about crunch and all that you'd think they're some powerhouse of productivity, but where's the good stuff?? what else did rockstar put out during this time??? where's the blockbuster game?? because rdr2 isn't it

About the story, what's with all the coloreds in the game? the game is starting to look more like a modern LARP than an RPG or open world game with this modern portrayal of ethnic Americans and coloreds, especially the african black. There would be the domination of ethnica Americans over africans still portrayed here, and it's looking like a "we're all a happy melting pot of communist and marxist equality ".

The mechanics of the game are not clear, and there will be random transitions into fights or whatever. Blah! The information is scattered all over the place which is simply bad design. The menus are poorly labeled with random crap in some of them... cannot tell whether this is intentional or not - but, in any event, why is it like this? I'm kind of sitting on a 4.5/10 for this game. Not terrible, but definitely not a good game, and not worth 60 effing dollars. Update: I see bing has some ranking system it displays in it's search results when you [search for "red dead redemption 2 steam" that shows it scored a 3.5/5](https://www.bing.com/search?q=red+dead+redemption+2+steam&PC=IS45&PTAG=SYS1000000&form=ISCHR1) and [metacritic shows user scores at a 5.8 out of 10](https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/red-dead-redemption-2?ftag=MCD-06-10aaa1f). Seems about right. This game seems like a side project from rockstar.... regardless of the graphical production value - the overall experience makes it seem like a side project. I guess when one visits a big city, and they see all the fuck-around behavior it really is just that: a fuck around place where nothing productive is getting done. think about it, they supposedly have these billions of dollars coming in, and with the over zealous hype about crunch and all that you'd think they're some powerhouse of productivity, but where's the good stuff?? what else did rockstar put out during this time??? where's the blockbuster game?? because rdr2 isn't it About the story, what's with all the coloreds in the game? the game is starting to look more like a modern LARP than an RPG or open world game with this modern portrayal of ethnic Americans and coloreds, especially the african black. There would be the domination of ethnica Americans over africans still portrayed here, and it's looking like a "we're all a happy melting pot of communist and marxist equality ".

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[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Yeah when I first played it I stopped for a whole month before I got back into it to finish the story. The first 4 chapters are just so tedious. Things kind of pick up at the end of the 4th chapter and get pretty good after that. Too bad the gameplay is a downgrade from the previous title. It's like they went for immersion and sacrificed some of the fun aspects in the process. Besides that, there's tons of propaganda, some subtle and some not so subtle. The absolute worst was the stupid bit in the game where you have to escort a bunch of suffragette cunts to their protesting spot, and you couldn't even attack any of them either. For an in depth look into all the subversive bullshit, I highly recommend this video by American Krogan (long but worth a watch/listen): https://www.bitchute.com/video/5opFTQmh3cZ3/

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That suffragette mission was the last straw for me, after the cut scene I dropped the game. I had such high hopes

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Fun fact, the actually Suffragette movement didn't start till TEN YEARS AFTER when Red Dead Redemption 2 was set historically. Rockstar put in social politics where it didn't belong again.

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The old Rockstar used to TRY to offend people

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Nah, the worst part was having to kill the good old white man in order to save a criminal nigger. Almost trashed the game at that point.

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I'll check out the video link.

This game seems like a side project from rockstar.... regardless of the graphical production value - the overall experience makes it seem like a side project. I guess when one visits a big city, and they see all the fuck-around behavior it really is just that: a fuck around place where nothing productive is getting done.

think about it, they supposedly have these billions of dollars coming in, and with the over zealous hype about crunch and all that you'd think they're some powerhouse of productivity, but where's the good stuff?? what else did rockstar put out during this time??? where's the blockbuster game?? because rdr2 isn't it

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

I'd have to partly disagree. There's definitely a lot going on besides just graphics in the game. There's tons of side objectives to do, such as hunting, playing cards, drinking, watching shows. And there's also a bunch of side content as well. I'll give them credit where it's due. They're very good at crafting open world games, so even if this may or may not be a side project, they completely nailed that aspect. And can you elaborate on what you mean by "nothing productive getting done?"

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all that side stuff looks recycled though. and you can get a better version of it in older games for a cheaper price.

nothing productive getting done as in i don't think this game is built out enough for a quality overall experience. why aren't new game genres happening if there's so much innovation at these companies in big cities?

i recall all this talk about the details of the game like "the horse's balls shrink in the cold" which implied that they'd taken care of all the bigger details before they got that far... i'm not a graphics guy, but i see graphics problems all over: sometimes the horse's mane will freeze in the hair while riding the horse, there are random light sources flickering through large portions of buildings, the game will ramp up the processing when i'm looking at a catalog in a store, etc

Back on the overall game play, I don't have a problem with reusing old game play mechanics, but they didn't stitch this game together well at all. It's not flowing properly from action to action, the controls compound this issue to extremely irritating levels (also the menu system), some of the missions seem tacked on (i just did a bar fight mission and i have no idea how javier when from the camp to town when I didn't complete his first mission, also he wasn't even in the camp earlier when his marker was there), i can't tell whether some of the speech in the cinematics are telling me about game mechanics or if they're doing "cinematic stuff" that doesn't occur or matter in-game, i could go on and on, but no matter what this game is not going to get above an average rating for me.