I would argue that all the bad guy here needed was a pistol with about 15 rounds.
I agree. A suspect with training? These transportation police wouldn't have stood a chance.
What happens in these undisciplined groups is they are easy to draw out and ruin their formation. Felling two men at the door also creates an immediate need to respond in a situation where tactical advantage is already long gone.
Without training, the last thing you want is a panicked thug with a gun feeling like he has no choice but to shoot. Sure, you'll "win" but at what cost?
The worst case scenario is someone with training, who is willing to die to take out a few guys. This is the inherent disadvantage that must always be protected from. Idiots with nothing left to lose are very, very dangerous in close quarters.
They should know how to fucking check corners, they should know to check hiding spots.
First person shooters have existed for long enough now, that even as the "old guy", I learned to play the corners in Goldeneye. The average American middle schooler is more tactically aware than these guys were.
Part of me wonders if this footage is a joke of sorts. Like are these cops in training, hunting a "suspect", and this hilarious moment was caught on camera?
It'd be much more chilling to know that these are "fully trained, professional" police officers hunting an extremely dangerous suspect. I assume he's believed to be dangerous because they're chasing him with rifles and in full gear. They don't usually chase down a guy who shoplifted or snatched a purse in this manner- they go after killers like this. And they're this inept.
What should have happened: J hook. First man breaches and makes a J shaped hook to his left, while a man is posted up at the doorway covering the far right corner of the room as a second man enters and perform a mirror of the J movement that the first man did. The the first two post up in safe positions as the rest of the team enters, and then begin a search with at least 2 men on lethal coverage for all 4 quarters of the room. Done this dozens of times. It almost becomes robotic. Maybe that's the problem- they're too used to it, so little details slip by them.
Unfortunately, in combat, little details get people killed. The smallest variable- a drop of water landing in your eye as you're pulling the trigger, a shift in the wind, you name it- could change a fight from a sure victory to an utter defeat.
The video is edited, but the response is real and it is footage from the hunt for a bombing suspect during the 2013 Boston Bombing.
It was originally uploaded as a "weed dealer" hiding from police, but that narrative was fake.
The police response is real. Even in training, clearing a room like that is a total joke.
Unfortunately, in combat, little details get people killed.
Like a round getting stuck in the chamber at the critical moment where you seize the turn and take the shot. :/
I'd say misfires are the number one minor variable that gets a lot of people got.. in my limited experience.
Nothing is worse than pulling the trigger on a sure thing and having it just "click." The moment after that fucking click lasts forever.
Like a round getting stuck in the chamber at the critical moment where you seize the turn and take the shot. :/
Ah shit, you just made me think about these recurring nightmares I've had throughout my life: in my dream, I'm fighting someone/something. It's nebulous as to what I'm fighting, just something that is bad and I need to deal with.
I'll punch it, shoot it with my "dream gun", kick it, swing objects at it- and nothing affects it. Girlfriends have told me I throw punches in my sleep sometimes, hitting air- a psychologist told me that the sensation of me swinging and missing might be sort of "seeping into my dream", making my dream-self feel like my punching is doing nothing. I awake with this feeling of dread and helplessness, and immediately jump out of bed and do 20 push-ups.
You ever hear of something like that?
Like a round getting stuck in the chamber at the critical moment where you seize the turn and take the shot. :/
Heard about a lot of that coming out of 'Nam when the M16 was first widely issued. It was issued to US troops and they were told it was "self-cleaning". Hundreds of American men were killed or maimed because of this bullshit. The US government quickly distributed pamphlets with instructions on how to clean the M16... but a lot of American soldiers would abandon their M16s for more reliable weapons looted from the corpses of VC/NVA.
That is a terrifying thought. This is why we spent an obscene amount of time learning how to clean our weapon systems in the Marine Corps. A tiny fleck of rust on the wrong part of a rifle could be the difference between "You shoot the bad guy" or "You expose yourself, pull your trigger, get spotted and shot before you even realize what happened".
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