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[–] 7 pts

I agree, embrace tradition. But first, many people need to deprogram and learn what that tradition actually is.

This myth that European women lived some sort of imprisoned existence where they only birthed and raised children, behaved like servants and did nothing outside of their household is feminist propaganda designed to set Feminists up as saviors of womenkind.

Case in point, women did compete in the Olympic games in Ancient Greece.

Some notable examples, Euryleonis of Sparta won the Olympic chariot race in 368 bce. Cynisca of Sparta won multiple victories at the Olympics in 396 and 392 bce, mainly racing, only to have her records broken by another woman, Berenice II of Alexandria.

Those named and other female participants of the ancient Olympic games are recorded alongside men in the victor lists, on statues, in mosaics, epigrams, inscribed in vases, discussed on letters etc.

Women also participated in other major games like Nemean and Isthmian. They didn't compete in all the same areas as men though to be fair. Not because their time was thought better dedicated to childbearing, but mainly because they didn't want to (Plato and other male philosophers discuss this at length. )

In addition to races, chariot racing, musicial and poetic contests, there were also women-orientated competitions such as weaving, beauty contests, chastity contests, household management and carding that were part of these and other games.

Women in ancient Greece often lived separate lives to the men, but they had lives. They weren't all sitting at home popping out babies. There were plenty of wealthy and influential women who left their mark.

Even more so for Roman women, who were highly educated, especially in mathametics, and operated businesses, as business management was seen as something women did (it was considered part of household management).

Add to that the fact Roman women were tax-exempt because tax responsibility was attached to voting right, and their legal rights were strongly protected by the patriarchal system, and you get an extremely influential and wealthy section of society with very active lives.

Women had their own clubs, organisations, cults, even their own curia, there were many female philosophers especially in the Pythagorean tradition, there were female playwrights and poets, female physicians and for a period there were female lawyers (until some very annoying chick got them all banned toward the end of the Republic).

Women were top political campaign contributors with the power to sway elections, major philanthropists paying to have major architectural works built for the enjoyment of all, they funded restoration projects, organised charities...

I'm tired of European history being perverted. Learn European heritage.

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This is a really good point. I'm tired of hearing the notion that women who live traditional lives as wives and mothers don't do anything besides pop out babies and clean the house. In my small town, it's the stay at home moms and retired folks who play the most substantial role in hosting local events, running lots of wonderful organizations, and keeping the town a connected community.

Interestingly, many of these involved women (including myself) live outside the city limits and cannot vote in city elections (the elections affect those of us outside the city limits though). However, we definitely play a substantial role in the political process to get the right candidates elected to the city council. I also run the town's only print media which is obviously a powerful thing locally. I'm also a stay at home, homestead mom and am pregnant with baby #3. I really enjoy my family life and love being involved in my community. It feel very natural and I know a lot of local people appreciate all the service the women are doing.

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You know what I am tired of?

Watching white women have to apologize for fulfilling the MOST IMPORTANT ROLE in our white tribes.

EVERYTHING men do, we do it for our women and our children. EVERYTHING. FULL STOP. We kill each other for our women and our children. We are creators of all aspects of civilization in full and honourable service of our women and our children.

But, without women, all that we have created is worth less than a pile of dirt.

We need to be venerating and celebrating the sacrifice each of us makes on behalf of the other. Our women give us family and hearth. Our men provide civilization at all costs. Our women need to celebrate our men. Our men need to celebrate our women.

We need to awaken our ancient gods, rebuild our ancient traditions and throw off the shackles of the semitic deseases that have inflicted our people.

We need a whole new conversation between our white women and our white men.

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I completely agree. White men are so awesome and I hate seeing them torn down. No lie, it fuels my fire to be a better wife, mother, and community servant every time I encounter anti white bullshit.

[–] 2 pts

Damn, this is worthy of its own post. You should create a thread with some sources if you have the time, as I think a lot of people here would appreciate you dispelling some of the "muh soggy knees" myths about the past.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

That was interesting, thank you for posting. Now I'm wondering what a chastity contest would involve.

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Not sure about back then but now it would involve lots of Reddit, Twitter, soy and hard seltzers.

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Where is a good, non-kiked source to learn more about European history?

Thank you for the excellent post.

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I wish I had a short easy answer. I've found most history books, articles and translations written after 1950 have a gradually increasingly anti-western bias, accelerating greatly around 2010. That in mind...

Sourcebooks can give a good overview. They're a collection of primary sources orientated around a particular subject. Almost like a catalogue that you can easily flip through.

They're especially useful because they often include fragments, inscriptions, artifacts, and artwork in addition to a variety of written records which gives a fuller picture.

For more in depth understanding, read works written during the era of interest. Don't rely on someone else's interpretation, go directly to the source or as close to it as possible.

Many old 'outdated' translations of important primary sources are available for free online on various university history department pages.

Once you have a good grasp of a chosen time/place/topic you can easily build and branch out from there.

You'll also be better able to gauge the trustworthiness of more recently written history books because you'll be able to catch lies and half-truths when they dip your area of study.

>Limit one woman, from royalty, per Olympics

>Female-exclusive competitions distinct from Olympics

This would be traditional. Flooding the Olympics one-to-one with women is an abdication of tradition. The same has happened to the workplace and many other male hobbies. All of it to their detriment.