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[–] [deleted] 2 pts

Wrong on every point, that's impressive.

Electric cars require many pounds of lithium to make the batteries, lithium is strip-mined by bulldozing the entire top half of a hill off. The electricity is still generated by, in the USA, mostly coal or natural gas power plants. The transmission cables are aluminum and up to 13% of the electricity generated in the USA just vanishes into waste heat due to resistance. In contrast, the fuel efficiency of a modern internal combustion engine is incredible, far beyond that of the turbines that generate most of our electricity. So an electric car uses electricity that was generated inefficiently (compared to an internal combustion engine), transmitted inefficiently, and stored inefficiently in a battery system that requires a mining operation removing and processing several tons of soil to produce. GTFO of here with your grade-school propaganda.

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I'll add to that, I'll copy and paste my comment.

Worst part is the massive amount of increase in size the grid will have to be to handle the daily energy transfer of electricity for automobiles.

Electricity will become much more expensive when EVs are the norm. More power lines, transformers, and maintenance will be needed. Solar will become more common, but the demand will be massive and so will the price to buy panels.

I wouldn't be surprised if electricity becomes 5x more expensive if all automobiles are EVs.

Then, when a new battery tech comes out, all that lithium will become worthless and dumped where convenient, destroying the wildlife.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

Yeah, you're correct on all points, isn't it infuriating when these normalfags can't even be bothered to do more than barely scratch the surface of a topic before they put on their cheerleading outfits and start chanting Rah Rah?

The guiding principle of this Universe is that There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch. You don't just slap an electric motor and about a thousand laptop batteries into a car chassis and announce that you just saved the fucking world. You have to do a lot better that that lazy shit before you can ratchet this species up another technological notch.

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They are faggots and will go with anything fed to them, just like EVs. They don't realize it is not for anyones benefit. It will make electricity expensive for everyone. TPTB are not dumb, they know what they are doing.

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You are only analyzing, and poorly, one side of the equation. Look at the costs of drilling and transporting oil, the refinery process, the metals and components of the combustion engine(the whole engine, metals used, need for coolant, oil, all the way through to the muffler). If you want to talk about mining lithium then you also need to talk about mining palladium used in catalytic convertors for instance.

When you do a proper analysis, electric cars are much much cleaner. Not better necessarily, but definitely cleaner.

You silly person, the oil needs to be drilled and transported for your pretty little Tesla too, did you already forget that we use fossil fuels to power our electrical grid? The natural gas that provides most of the power (next to coal) is a by-product of the oil drilling industry. Take away that oil drilling industry, and half the electric power turbines in the USA grind to a halt within weeks. And the metals in a combustion engine are stable easily-recyclable non-toxic metals. Is Lithium any of those things? Now go crack open a book before your skull implodes.

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Are you seriously going to say the engine in a car is more efficient than an oil power plant?

Your focus on lithium is strange. First off, you do know a lithium ion battery is only about .1% lithium right? And, it's the mining and processing of it is toxic, not really the metal itself(unless you are ingesting a lot of it). But you can say that about the mining process of all metals. Again, what about all the other chemicals, liquids and gases, that are produced from a combustion engine? You going to ignore carbon monoxide? Lubricants? Coolant? And yes, lithium batteries can be recycled.

I'll say it again, the electric car is much cleaner than a gas powered car. You can dispute that all you want but there is zero evidence to support your claim. Unless you just want to focus on lithium mining.

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There is only 2g of palladium in a converter, maybe even less if we didn't have to have over regulations. Where as a battery car will have several kilograms of lithium.

You make it seem that half the car is palladium.

Also, one day that lithium will be useless when the next battery tech comes out. Trillions of tons of lithium will become useless worldwide when all cars are EV and many of it will be dumped carelessly, killing wildlife more so than petroleum ever did.

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Only .1% of a lithium ion battery is lithium.

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Stop conflating EVs and batteries You instantly lost all credibility.

EV's contain batteries, you infinite nesting series of chuckleheads.

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You really should stop the projection. The claim that all batteries are identical and unchanging is idiotic.

Seriously, take a brief look at current research, current tech, and industry efforts. While I agree backed criticism exists, it's almost exclusively for current battery technology. Which is, of course, not EV criticism.

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You can't argue with these faggots, they need to justify looking like a faggot after buying and EV. They buy into the brainwash bullshit, and they need you to do the same.

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bulldozing the entire top half of a hill... you stated strip the entire hill and then create a crater out of a MOUNTAIN wrong.

Know who just got a Tesla in order to save the world? Andrea Ocasio-Cortez. The Electric Vehicle fags are in great company.