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You guys are not saying the same thing. In the case of homophobia, you’re saying the fear is rational, he’s saying that the fear doesn’t exist

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I think we're essentially saying the same thing in different ways. Im thinking a phobia needs to be rooted in the irrational. However, he's saying that the phobia isnt a phobia because it isnt natural. Same thing, different premise

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No, he’s saying the phobia isn’t a phobia because he isn’t afraid, you’re saying it isn’t a phobia because it’s natural, or rational, to be afraid; as in being afraid of spiders. You’re saying it’s rational to be afraid of spiders so it’s not a phobia because phobias are irrational fears, correct?

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Right, i think i confused myself. My bad