Wars are always fought with subterfuge first. Which is exactly what we have seen. Usually the bombs and guns come next, which I expect to happen soon enough. I get what you're saying, but from what I see, most whites have a....I don't want to say defeatist, maybe more apathetic....so I dont see any good outcome. Everyone I talk to just accepts life as is and moves on. I may have a defeatist attitude, but its only because I havent talked to anyone in the real world willing to go to the extremes I would to defend this country. I'm ready to die...I'll rejoice with my last breath. Everyone I talk to is more worried about their pension and toeing the line, so what am I supposed to do with that. My defeatist attitude is rooted in facts and understanding. How many Russians did the bolsheviks kill? It's not like us white folks actually win these wars...so what hope am I supposed to latch onto? What can you show me that proves we have any chance of winning? At this point, I dont care about winning or losing, I just want it to kick off already.