Back about 2005 I was stopping by a mall near a refinery in Oakland because the food court was pretty good. There was a store there that sold upscale clothes and I became friends with the owner who complained that he couldn't sell decent clothes as all the blacks wanted was sports shoes and t shirts. He finally sold out but in the process sold me a pair of alligator shoes from Italy that had originally been priced at $900.00. Still cost me $300.00 but the silk tie I got for $20.00 was hand woven. Best tie I ever owned.