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they're drinking copious amounts of alcohol/drinks full of sugar

Back in "the day", when 'Murica was still pretty great, people were drinking booze and sugar and there was no obesity crisis. Then we switched to literally Jewish artificial sweeteners, HFCS, and promoted extra-hoppy beer as the most "masculine" beverage around.

While I'm loath to smoke, there is an odd association between smoking going down and obesity going up, on a society-wide scale.

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Pretty much every smoker i see is an obeast. Like 90+% minimum. I associate cigarettes with lardasses. Physically active peopke typically dont put down 3 packs of camels per day.

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Must be in a different area, or have different brands popular, as the science suggests that smokers should be more robust and trim. Though we know that science says a different thing depending upon the day.

Smoking leads to more testosterone and lowered appetite. Unfortunately, the reputation for the latter was so well known that it led to women smoking, and the higher T levels did a number on them (osteoporosis increases); it's not just the general nastiness of smoking that makes women who smoke unattractive, I thought, and the suggestion of "science" that women smoking = women huffing in low-key gender transition hormone therapy might explain it.

FWIW I know many trim and fit smokers, they just aren't likely to be running any marathons.

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All smokers i see are bigmac gorping fat fucks.