I thought mgtow was not a "be single, goy!" type of movement but then again something that may start out having an actual purpose can easily turn for the worse. I view the subreddit "femaledatingstrategy" this way where I think the initial goal is to get women to avoid wifebeater and deadbeats, but when I go there for laughs now it is almost always "stay single so you dont have to ever suffer the minor inconveniences of someone else."