"collectivism always fail"
The army is pretty collectivist, in fact it's bordering on a communist regime when you think about it; everybody dressed the same, same rules for everybody, the collective before the individual, with a rigid vertical hierarchy aka chain of command, finding a way to earn a living isn't part of daily life, daily life is already earning you a living
I'm talking about how the army is traditionally organized, not the woke aberration it has become
When does collectivism or hyper collectivism fail? When it runs out of resources to sustain itself, typically. And it's also true for the polar opposite organizations/systems, as in hyper individualistic; when there's no food on the table everybody loses his shit, normal. Same goes for any given society/organization.
See lybia under gaddafi? It was a crossover between a military dictatorship, a socialist utopia, and an islamic caliphate. Pretty fucking collectivist.
It was pissing oil and stacking gold everyday, it could have lasted like that for hundreds of years. If it failed it's not because of the system itself, it's because of a massive regime change operation, a coup.
I see I see. Nation socialism is sounding more ideal. It could possibly also just a good stepping stone to restore a republic.
Yes absolutely.
Take laisse-faire-freemarket-capitalism for instance, the free for all, with sweatshops and child labor no social net no minimum wage no hold barred, a phase through which america and the west in general went through, a long time ago. Well it doesn't have to be perpetual, it can be the startup phase, and when it takes off after 2 or 3 generations, then yeah you ban child labor because it's not desirable in itself in the first place, and also because you can afford it, as in you don't need it anymore.
Now with "laisse-faire-freemarket-capitalism" you might need at some point to add protectionism because, there are economic predators that you NEED to fend off against... You aren't going to allow them to buy up your weapon manufacturing base for instance because you have reasons to suspect that there are room for malevolence behind that move...
Now, you don't necessarily need the raw part of "laisse-faire-freemarket-capitalism" (child labor sweat shop) when you piss oil everyday... And some regions, it's not even practicable, because there virtually zero resources to exploit, it's far removed from everything and barely anybody wants to go and live over there BUT, you need to hold the place, for strategical and military reasons, so what do you do? Well you subsidies the place, because what else?
Interesting. But, as Plato said, governments do go through cycles
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