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As a result of waining patriarchal control. I wonder what the model under matriarchal societies is?
Someone farts and the others henpeck her until she confesses to witchcraft. (news.bbcimg.co.uk)
He is saying that women are ‘defecting’ to college and careers because women have historically had to assimilate in to their husbands’ tribes— it comes naturally.
Arguably matrilineal polygamy is matriarchal. This includes some africans and some tribes in south east asia and the americas.
There are a couple of groups that live in the himalayan region that practice limited polyandry, but that is mostly to brothers. Yeah, brother fuckers.
So you are suggesting this is the fault of the patriarchy.
Interesting, behavior acquired as a result of patriarchy.
I'm inferring it is a result of there not being a firmer patriarchial model, that women are then entertaining neo-liberalism for direction and guidance.
So you are suggesting this is the fault of the patriarchy.
Thats not it at all. Not at all. Crunchy and I are having a slightly egg-headed dispassionate discussion about what is going on from an evolutionary POV. We aren’t talking about fault.
Whites and many other groups have had marriage traditions where the female transfers her allegiance when she abandons her birth family and adopts her husbands family. This is the nature of patriarchy. Everyone doesnt do it this way. Probably a lot of africans.
Crunchy made the suggestion that it might have to do with women’s lack of ‘loyalty’ to a traditional white male ‘tribe’ or the nuclear family; I said it was interesting.
At some godamn point, we’re going to have to stop pointing fingers at each other, study the problem and implement a solution. That will not happen if you keep on squawking about how feminists are squawking about the patriarchy! There should be no sides except for white people’s side. Get it?
Our instincts have been twisted and our culture has been subverted. These are the natural mechanisms through which we regulate our society. Social parasites have infiltrated and distorted our culture with misinformation. And so everyone is malfunctioning. Men and women.
You were triggered when someone said patriarchy because its a buzzword the left uses. Step back from the problem and be more analytical . You cannot see the forest through the trees if you keep blaming women.
No, that is the wrong frame. You can say the same thing using another frame that is more accurate in my view:
White men and women have co-evolved over at least a few million years for survival. This has shaped our bodies and our minds / psychology.
What it means is that when one a piece of the puzzle is missing, our naturaly evolved minds / psychologies can spin out of control and end up resting in an unnatural position in search of that missing piece. This all happens at the subconcious level. It's only been in the last 100 years that we have even started to learn about evolutionary psychology, it's hardly common knowledge.
Whether men are not offering a strong enough patriarchy or whether or not men are just missing is up for debate.
However, if you listen to the words of our and men our women here, the conversation is something like this:
"where are our women in this war?"
"we are here, why haven't you asked, where you been?"
I think, because we have allowed middle eastern based religion (Christianity) into our cultures, it has polluted our perception of patriarchy vs matriarchy. In low iq desert cultures from which Christiany springs, it seems normal to speak about men dominating women in some absolute way. If you listen to our women respond (especially in this thread) they are merely waiting to be asked to put on the armour and take up the sword along side us. This is directionaly a VERY different narrative.
Or to put it another way, our narratives and mythologies have been allowed to be supplanted by low iq cultures. Our mythologies are much richer, much deeper and much more useful.
We just have to dig them up again.
You got it precisely correct. Your knowledge of evolutionary psyhcology and bilogy is razor sharp.
I am just an amateur. I pick shit up here and there. I feel evolution is the key to what is going on culturally and politically.
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