It is a reasonable speculation that Democrat election fraud goes back earlier than 2020. It was only in the Trump election for his second term that we became aware of its pervasive extent. Hillary Clinton gave every indication in the 2016 election that she expected to win. She barely campaigned. She was so angry on election night, she didn't give a speech to her supporters. She thought the Deep State was going to secure her "victory" just as it secured that of Joe Biden in 2020, and various Democrat candidates in 2022.