>The right has been successfully dismissed as conspiracy retards By whom exactly? I have met several people during my job that while they don't necessarly agree with it, have to admit that something certainly was sketchy, even people that are not even native nor voted in the US elections. You refer to the "right" in third person and yet use "we", something doesn't add up. And no, the "right" has not been dismissed as anything by anyone, I don't know where you got this idea, but I would be glad if you showed me.