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A reporter rented a boat and toured the Los Angeles/Long Beach Ports to find out the root cause of the problem (brilliant!). The biggest issue is that empty shipping containers are clogging the space, limiting the ability to offload new goods. He said in 3 hours he only saw a dozen containers offloaded. Of the more than 100 cranes, only 7 were operating.

Read about it here: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1451543776992845834.html

POTENTIAL SOLUTION:

Since space is limited in the Long Beach area to store the empty containers, take them to Anaheim, which is less than 15 miles away:

Someone contact Angels Stadium in Anaheim and lease the parking lot. Since baseball season is over for the Angels, they will have plenty of space. Stage a drop off area for empty containers (fence it in so it's secure). Have the truckers load and drive the empty containers to Angels Stadium (or possibly send them by rail for pickup in Anaheim). (Someone will need to rent or move a few cranes to offload the containers.) Leave the containers there and then have truckers return to pick them up and deliver them to the rightful owners (shipping firms) as soon as space is available.

San Diego solution: If it could be arranged, ships traveling back east with empty containers could be staged in the San Diego port. And those empty containers driven down the 405 (at night when there is no traffic) for offload. Not sure how those contracts might work, but SD should have more capacity than Long Beach.

Right now it costs cargo ships $135-$150K a day to sit waiting for space in Long Beach. Any solution that expedites the handling of containers would more than be offset by the cost savings.

A reporter rented a boat and toured the Los Angeles/Long Beach Ports to find out the root cause of the problem (brilliant!). The biggest issue is that empty shipping containers are clogging the space, limiting the ability to offload new goods. He said in 3 hours he only saw a dozen containers offloaded. Of the more than 100 cranes, only 7 were operating. Read about it here: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1451543776992845834.html **POTENTIAL SOLUTION:** Since space is limited in the Long Beach area to store the empty containers, take them to Anaheim, which is less than 15 miles away: Someone contact Angels Stadium in Anaheim and lease the parking lot. Since baseball season is over for the Angels, they will have plenty of space. Stage a drop off area for empty containers (fence it in so it's secure). Have the truckers load and drive the empty containers to Angels Stadium (or possibly send them by rail for pickup in Anaheim). (Someone will need to rent or move a few cranes to offload the containers.) Leave the containers there and then have truckers return to pick them up and deliver them to the rightful owners (shipping firms) as soon as space is available. San Diego solution: If it could be arranged, ships traveling back east with empty containers could be staged in the San Diego port. And those empty containers driven down the 405 (at night when there is no traffic) for offload. Not sure how those contracts might work, but SD should have more capacity than Long Beach. Right now it costs cargo ships $135-$150K a day to sit waiting for space in Long Beach. Any solution that expedites the handling of containers would more than be offset by the cost savings.

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we were told last year the ships going back were not loaded with empties, because no extra workers to load empties .. this is what happens when a year or 2 worth of containers are all on 1 country Since cali has 2 ports, just turn one into offloading the other to load only.

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Yes, that is a potential solution in the near term, one port for offloading (Long Beach) and another for shipping out empty containers (San Diego)! You might even be able to split the Long Beach/LA terminals into areas for offloading or shipping only too. But at a minimum someone needs to solve the issue with the empties clogging the area. Take them to a staging area in the near term.

Also, San Diego has a ton of military logistics experts who could manage this all for you. If we only didn't have a brain dead person in the White House.....

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While at the same time there is a container shortage at the other end. The economics of this horse shit make 0 sense. How can china produce shit and ship it here using containers when its not cost effective to ship the empty containers back on a ship that will be empty going back anyway. It's all fucking lies.

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I agree, this makes zero sense

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how large of a bomb would it take to move the port to AZ?

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I know you're kidding but a really big earthquake might do it

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was hoping to help with some of the political issues facing CA/NV as well.