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I have watched like 20 Youtubes with Rogan and others who have taken that super strong version of DMT and claim to have experienced a frightening ego death followed by an enlightening time with a God or Godlike being who acts as a guide and then they say they receive complete enlightenment.

So, I’m really resentful of these fucks because they all make similar claims about being shown the meaning of existence, right? Now, Rogan probably has higher-than-average intelligence, but not genius- level—yet he cannot really give any big picture.

A couple of other guys, from their verbal skills and such, seem to have IQs in the very gifted to genius-level range (140-160+), yet they cannot really explain it all. One guy just smiles goofily and just says “it’s all bullshit.”

Can one of you dopers in here explain in simplest terms what your experience lead you to believe about the nature of existence and what happens when we die?

I have watched like 20 Youtubes with Rogan and others who have taken that super strong version of DMT and claim to have experienced a frightening ego death followed by an enlightening time with a God or Godlike being who acts as a guide and then they say they receive complete enlightenment. So, I’m really resentful of these fucks because they all make similar claims about being shown the meaning of existence, right? Now, Rogan probably has higher-than-average intelligence, but not genius- level—yet he cannot really give any big picture. A couple of other guys, from their verbal skills and such, seem to have IQs in the very gifted to genius-level range (140-160+), yet they cannot really explain it all. One guy just smiles goofily and just says “it’s all bullshit.” Can one of you dopers in here explain in simplest terms what your experience lead you to believe about the nature of existence and what happens when we die?

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Well considering the comments so far are completely irrelevant to your question...

If you are looking for an explanation of what DMT does to you while high or after, Stop. You won't find one.

Joe and all those other faggots are just that. Faggots. "Whoa dude have you ever did DMT? Whoooooa? Dude..."

Hypes and lies. I've done DMT 50+ times, there does seem to be a theme. There is also completely random trips too.

What has DMT done for me as far as beliefs? Not much. It definitely changed my perspective on some subjects. Mostly it leaves me with a feeling that there is something or someone trying to help me through this shit hole I call life. Even if it is the "real me" hidden behind a mask of ego. I don't believe I was fully aware of "myself" until I did DMT.

Smoking DMT is fine btw. The other gay oops I meant guy just had some bunk shit he bought off the street from a Jew.

Smoking: 30 minutes and done. That includes a complete comedown. Onset is very rapid and intense.

Ayahuasca: 8 hours+. Onset is much slower and relaxed. Expect dry heaves. You may also, vomit, pee, or poop yourself. The latter two seem to be pretty rare. I've never seen it personally.

Pharmahuasca: 4 hours+. Smooth easy onset. Much less gastric disturbances.

Mainline Freebase: ?????. Not sure but it was the best DMT trip I ever had.

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Acid logic. It made perfect sense when you're high af. You come down and can't even remember why you believed that thing that made perfect sense when you were high.

You only remember that there are answers to life's greatest questions. You don't remember the answers or the questions, though.

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I've done it about 20x back in 2008 for the first time. I only remember a few of my breakthroughs but it all went down like this. My first hit was done with my dealer so he could babysit me on my first trip. His idea, not mine. Nothing spectacular, just vivid colors. My following trips were similar, lots of complex geometry, blackness and colors. A few more hits, more of the same. Then one afternoon I took a big hit and everything changed.

Suddenly everything I experienced previously went from geometry and fractals to me being in a white room with some dude in robes waiting there to greet me. I thought I died. I could feel my body was mush, just skin and bones but I could open my eyes and see I wasn't dead. Closed them quickly and began my journey.

The robed figure was pointing down a corridor and motioned me to follow. I was just a ball of light energy and flew along to see other entities happily waving at me and walking around me in circles. They also appeared to be sitting at what I would describe as a control board. My intuition was telling me this control board was what we call reality and these things were in control of it. That was my first breakthrough.

The subsequent trips after were extrapolations of the previous. It picked up exactly where I left off. The beings that came to greet me each time were what others describe as the "machine elves". They had a mischievousness about them. Like little jokers. I recall wanting to see their faces but they would never reveal them. At one point when I was following, I said "Stop, I want to see what you look like" to which it stopped and showed me its arm. "No, I want to see your face" to which it would spin around and bow towards me, lifting its face off to expose complex gears inside it's head. I had a few more of these types of visions but I don't recall the lessons they were teaching me.

Then finally I had an experience with them which would change my perspective about all of this. Up to this point I had only assumed this is a fantastic hallucination but I quickly learned how wrong I was. I had just started a new series of jobs with my employer doing re-work at Mcdonalds on a night shift with a helper. The level of stress was unbelievable seeing the crew wasn't properly prepped for what was needed to be done. I had a ew guy with me and we worked all night to get finished before the store opened and I was scheduled to do another one the next day.

That afternoon before my night shift took another big hit and this is what happened. I was in a Mcdonalds and these entities were everywhere, doing what I do. They were running cables down the wall, carrying tools and material past me (holding up to their faces so I couldn't see them). They were like the little shoe maker elves from the children's story completing all my tasks for me while I just stood there and watched. It was amazing. I asked them, "Are you helping me?"

That night I rolled up to my job site. Stressed. Another shit night in store for me and I wasn't excited about it at all. Then it happened. The company vice president showed up with a crew of 7 guys from the head office in Toronto. It was about 2 am when I had my epiphany. Everyone was doing everything exactly like my trip that afternoon. My only job was to delegate as I watched everyone work around me, fishing cable down the walls, hauling material back and forth etc. It was surreal. Obviously, I couldn't say anything but I knew what was happening and I knew why. We banged off that store in a few hours, easy peasy 0 stress.

That's when I knew there is something to this and reality is not what you think. I continued to finish up the remaining DMT and had a few more trips but that is all I did. I have another story but I'll leave it there.

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Thanks. I have also heard other recollections of machine elves and such. This explanation you’ve provided is slightly more helpful than others.

I guess I’m looking for a more macro-type of explanation. I don’t really believe the Bible word-for-word, but I believe in the overall Judeo-Christian framework of things, so I’d be interested in knowing how the two mesh. Does one justify the other? Do you get the feeling of overall benevolence? Do you sense a duality of heaven and hell? Of good and evil? Do you consider yourself a good person? I don’t. I see myself as roughly 50-50. I have done a lot of good deeds and saved lives a couple of times, but I’m also a meanspirited fuck who is unpleasant and misanthropic and I think about killing and maiming literally every day due to the environment I grew up in and the PTSD of my life. Do things like this as well as other “foibles” get forgiven? I’m hoping for my sake that they’re understood as pettiness in the grand scheme of things and part of the human condition by these higher beings?

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> Do things like this as well as other “foibles” get forgiven?

I don't really have an answer for this. Do murderers and rapists get to come back for a re-do? Or do they get thrown straight into the lake of fire? Perhaps a bit of both.

This is what I got out of my trips. Your belief system defines what is waiting for you when you die. If you believe in Jesus, you will see Jesus. I believe in aliens and I believe the "bible" is just a misunderstanding. A little of "their" world interpreted by man on our world. 6 or 1/2 a dozen is the same thing. At the end of the day, the true reality is this, in my opinion. The Alpha and the Omega has always existed. The true nature of reality is it has always been there. Not our reality, thee reality outside of the big bang. That realm I experienced is the true reality. It just is what it is. Hard to comprehend when we are trapped in "time" and everything we do is governed by it. To us, there must be a beginning and an end, however, time is only an illusion.

Once you get past that and try to fathom reality has always been there, then you can accept a "god' of some sort. An intelligence. Whether or not it gets involved, I don't know. But if we are just a simulation, avatar, we are an extension of it. It permeates through us as a sentient wave of consciousness. We are god. God is having an objective view of itself through its creation of 'this' reality. We are just spirits having a human experience. You don't need to follow any scripture or religion because it's already coded into our dna. It's innate. Two rules. 1. Do no harm 2. Put someone before yourself. That's it.

On a deeper level, I believe reality is just a self-replicating, error correcting algorithm.

Haha I ended up posting a long ass comment too but there is just no quick, easy way to describe that experience. That shit is pure magic.

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Yup. Words can never describe.

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For me the DMT experience was like unlocking a new part of myself. I acquired new interests, new hobbies, became more conscious of how I interact with others. Another thing that happened is that I became acutely tuned to the emotional state of people around me.

Prior to DMT I was kind of a jock, pretty arrogant, vain and materialistic. Chasing after the latest hot ride, boat, bigger nicer house etc. I still like those things but they're no longer the purpose I live my life for. Went from buying designer clothing to shopping at Ross. Arrogance turned to humility, I don't look down on anyone anymore, everyone is fighting a battle, now I'm more inclined to help someone rather than to shit on them.

I don't know how much I learned about the nature of existence through my trip but it changed mine and I believe it was for the better. I think it was a matter of experiencing the connection to the universe we're living in, we're all part of the same experience regardless of how individualistic we feel.

As far as death goes, I've drowned before and was hit by an ied. So as soon as the trip started I completely recognized that panic you would experience before you recognize that you're about to die. But it feels like you "observe" yourself dying rather than experiencing the process, a rather detached feeling so instead of going "fuck, I'm dying" it's more like "huh, I guess this is death". It's almost like you accept it bc all of a sudden you're keenly aware that death is a part of life.

The trip itself is very different than acid or shrooms despite of the few other comments here. Shrooms and acid are like roller skates and DMT is like a rocket. Whether you keep your eyes closed or open your will see exactly the same thing, but you are still thinking very clearly. You're literally thrown into another realm of "existence" and since sleep paralysis kicks in pretty hard you're stuck for the duration of the ride which is luckily the most euphoric thing ever.

I remember that after the death feeling my living room (before disappearing completely) became covered in sumeric writing (I learned that after the trip, had no idea what sumeric even was prior to that) and then I was just surrounded by beings that were so happy to see me, they were so glad I finally came there and had all these things they wanted me to see and all these things they wanted to tell me. It is just such an information overload that I believe is why few people can accurately describe their experience.

I'm not advocating the use of drugs, I stick to coffee and nicotine, alcohol occasionally and am for the most part pretty straight edge. I've had DMT 3-4 times in the last 12 years. Everyone experiences a sub-threshold level of DMT during their sleep, so anyone demonizing it is ill informed.

I apologize for the long post. DMT was a first hallucinogenic I tried and I was around 28 ish, I've experimented with LSD and shrooms afterwards but I would definitely place those into recreational drug territory whereas DMT feels like something else entirely. Idk what happens when we die but I sure as hell hope that I get to go to that wonderful place

edit: it took me forever to finish my comment and then I accidentally clicked submit in the middle of writing so this is the full edited version.

Rogan and any else else who receives airtime is part of the cabal.

Now I am not saying they are bad people, just saying they sold their souls to be puppets to their masters.

Listen to god, shut off all their mind control devices, I’ve no idea what’s happening in the world, except around me locally.

God’s with you right now. Look up.

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More specifically, I’m referring to 5-meo DMT which is the one that people cite as being the more profound and life altering of the DMT types. It is all very frustrating to me, because all of these fucking assholes basically tell you that they met God, yet with all their loquaciousness and eloquence cannot in any meaningful way qualify their statements. They can explain colors and feelings and perceptions, but cannot tell you a fucking thing about what the afterlife brings. They just give some vague copout answer like: “everything makes sense” or “It’s all bullshit.”

It makes me think that the whole thing is a movement of mystique created by Jews and propagated by these shills to cause people to want to try drugs to make them weak, passive and degenerate.

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I smoked it a few times but nothing happened. I just coughed and coughed and had to get a bad plastic taste out of my mouth. Smoking it's a waste of time in my opinion. It's probably better to do the Ayahuasca version.

You smoked a bunch of shit made by some retard. DMT is one of the few substances that your body recognizes immediately bc it is something it produces itself. I would hold off on ayhuasca, it's a 4 hour ride instead of a 15 min trip.

If there is such a thing as a "DMT head". They are fucking retarded and are in no way affiliated with people who use DMT responsibly.

True, true. It's my most favorite thing ever and I doubt I'm going to do it again in the next decade lol