The last part that I didn't respond to yet is mostly clips from later in the show, past when I stopped watching TV altogether, my criticism of the first part still stands, but wow, did that show take a hard turn, yeah, Groening is definitely not a Christian anymore.
The last part, where Devon talks about how people can't watch the Simpsons and be Christian at the same time was very much in touch with me and how I feel, even as an atheist, it describes perfectly how I feel about just tolerating people who insult my race over and over again.
And I can agree with so many people who are trying to not offend people who listen to evil zionist jews and their cultural marxist bullshit, rather than standing up for what they believe in.
The obvious difficulty here is, what should a Christian do? fight? speak out?
Would you violate the words of Christ to defend Christianity?
It's the old conversation I had with Christians on here before, knowing that Christ commands you to bear insult and injury, and not only that, but to do good to those who persecute you in such a way.
I got responses like "well, Jesus whipped the money changers on the temple steps and in the markets", the response is that Jesus is God, what applies to him doesn't to apply to us, for us is his commandments, which lie in contrast to what needs to be done in defense of the faith.
"well, Jesus called out the jews as his enemies", ok, assuming he did, what did he say we must do to out enemies as followers of Christ? and what would that get us if we were to do that?
I get responses like "well, Christians for centuries were unafraid to fight for their faith", the response is that they didn't know what the Bible's contents were, and were acting on the guidance of religious officials who wisely left out the more suicidal parts of The Good Book for the sake of king and country, when they went to fight for the sake of God, they were doing so in defiance of what God would have them do.
"and that would lead to the destruction of their religion", yes, it would, but the purpose of Christianity is personal salvation, not the eternal perpetuation of the religion itself, once one achieves their goal of entering Heaven, their mission as a Christian is over.
The Bible itself is a major obstacle for the Bible-believing Christian, there was a reason that it was considered a sin of heresy for Christian laymen to read the Bible, because the contents in it are destructive to any society that knows it and follows it's commands over all else, the priests knew that a large amount of their population were likely to do such a thing, with no concern for Earthly matters, and the whole religion, as well as any country that has the religion as the majority among it's people, would be destroyed by their enemies or from within as the godly would follow the words of Christ, and the ungodly would murder and rob them to oblivion.
There is a reason why there is a contingent of pro-Christian atheists on sites with dissident politics, like this site, who want to rewrite the Bible so that the problem verses are gone, and the book is more straightforwardly pro-White and pro-functional societies.
Make Jesus and his teachings like Devon here thinks they are and should be, but for some reason, even when the problems are pointed out, many Christians object to a rewriting of the Bible, for them, the religion is not a tool of social engineering, but something that is actually what it claims to be, the revealed word of God.
All that talk about how critical Christianity was for social engineering purposes all of a sudden think that this is no longer it's best selling point, this was a the issue with them going from saying "we need Christianity because it's true" to saying "we need it because it's useful".
Once you go there, and we accept the argument, the next step is to find ways to make it even more useful than it already is, and when we see some confusion over how to interpret the Bible, and we see parts of it that cause people to come to political conclusions that aren't helpful to securing what is important to us, we are obviously going to be suggesting that we update those parts to a version that better serves our needs.
In my experience, Christianity has not been useful to this part of the political spectrum, it has hurt us in a variety of ways.
For example, it's been a disaster on the subjects of sodomy and infanticide. the religion had ruined the right's ability to argue against homosexuality and abortion by usurping the place of secular arguments that exist against them, and casting the entire debate in a "religious nutcases vs rational thinkers" narrative, it had been nothing but a disservice, and the baby-killing faggots made great gains off the backs of that re-framing.
One thing that annoys me is that the Bible mentions the appropriate ages for sexual activity exactly zero times, there's no age of consent, and rape is treated as more of a property crime than an actual sin in itself. so it makes me laugh when Christians think they have something against pedophiles, they got something against faggots, and animal-fuckers and incest, but nothing on pedos, God did not see it as a crime even worth mentioning, yet the Christians go on about it like it was something God took issue with, if he was against a sick fuck of a man inserting himself into undeveloped poon, God would have said something about it. Worst of all, the Bible explicitly mentions it's a sin to add to the laws of God, or to speak for God, which means it's a sin for Christians to oppose pedophilia (at least, in this way).
The Christians can oppose the satanic rituals where children are raped, tortured, and have their blood drunk, but because it's murder, and the worship of idols. The Christians themselves have trouble with these two commandments, On the first note, we have the aforementioned problem of Christian passivity, and on the second note, we have the fact that Christians celebrate all manner of occasions that would be idolatrous, Christmas, for example, was banned because it was not a Biblically-approved celebration and therefore idolatrous, even if you claim to be celebrating the birth of Christ, the Bible explicitly mentions that it is still idolatry even if it's under the guise of worshipping the true God, if not Christmas, what should they be celebrating? jewish holidays, the ones Jesus observed with his disciples, like passover, the Bible recommends ditching holidays like Christmas for holidays like passover.
Then there is this mention of something called "objective morality", what about the Christian morality is objective? Even if God, the creator of the universe, had handed down a set of moral instructions, It's still just some guy's opinion, I see nothing more "objective" about that morality than about the "objectivity" of how we should dip tea bags into our water, rather than cut them open and dump the tea leaves into the cup, as was the tea bag's creator's expectation.
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