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This is a triggering subject so I have to qualify the question below everytime. Many who are sure we haven't get triggered if you have a different opinion. Interestingly, many who are sure we have get triggered if you have a different opinion. So, let's please not get triggered here and stick to logical arguments. Genius's on both sides of this argument have great points so let's try flushing them out a little. So, what I am about to tread down are serious questions which are intended as pure intellectual pursuit only. You don't have to participate if you don't want to.

Before replying, please refer to sub rule #2.

  1. Did the moon landing happen? Please elaborate with the following points.

  2. In what way(s) have you validated your understanding? I'm not talking about seeing video or reading something someone reported, but actually validated, such as experimented, seen with a telescope, etc.

  3. Is your understanding absolute? As in, for sure the moon landing happened. Or, for sure it didn't. What makes it absolute if this is the case? If it's not absolute, how do you break down your probabilities between the two?

  4. Over and above the first two points, is there anything that you believe is sketchy about NASA and space footage? For example, have you seen this (youtube.com) and if not what is your opinion after watching it?

This is a triggering subject so I have to qualify the question below everytime. Many who are sure we haven't get triggered if you have a different opinion. Interestingly, many who are sure we have get triggered if you have a different opinion. So, let's please not get triggered here and stick to logical arguments. Genius's on both sides of this argument have great points so let's try flushing them out a little. So, what I am about to tread down are serious questions which are intended as pure intellectual pursuit only. You don't have to participate if you don't want to. Before replying, please refer to sub rule #2. 1. Did the moon landing happen? Please elaborate with the following points. 2. In what way(s) have you validated your understanding? I'm not talking about seeing video or reading something someone reported, but actually validated, such as experimented, seen with a telescope, etc. 3. Is your understanding absolute? As in, for sure the moon landing happened. Or, for sure it didn't. What makes it absolute if this is the case? If it's not absolute, how do you break down your probabilities between the two? 4. Over and above the first two points, is there anything that you believe is sketchy about NASA and space footage? For example, have you seen [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuYydr7615Y) and if not what is your opinion after watching it?

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[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

I have no doubt probes have landed on the moon, but no humans have.

Very important consideration. I've got a friend who is full on flat earth and he may entertain this idea. He's got some good logic about what's happening but is full on "space isn't real" which I think is also an unlikely conclusion.

Curious about the probes on the moon. Also, do you think humans have been to space at all? I see a lot of questionable "space station" footage which makes me question shit highly.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

I think humans go into orbit regularly, but the space station stuff is really fishy. I think some of it is faked (bubbles, the "hair" bullshit, etc.), but I don't know why they would unless the real one is "busy" with something. Russians still carry a loaded revolver up, I believe it's for a reason and not intended for humans because nothing prevents the problem human from getting it first.