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Being disciplined does NOT require acting like a robot under someone else's THUMB. I think those people (EXCUSE to ABUSE others) are evil infiltrators OF things like religion and scouting and such.

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I get your sentiment. But you must understand the historical context: many leading NSDAP figures were veterans (Hitler, Göring, Ley, Röhm etc.) and were opposed to other violent revolutionary parties like the KPD.

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Yeah, I'm just saying, that NOW, this time, we should NOT equate discipline with subjugation or punishment or severe attitude about everything. THAT is a trap I think (history). Discipline, you provide it YOURSELF because you KNOW why (FAILING of religion I think historically), NOT because you're DRIVEN to do it, or coerced or threatened by some iron booted DICK (probably a fag).