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Forbes leans right... but I'm an establishment way.

We don't have any way of knowing if the votes were legit.

But we do know Eur/US/NATO has no interest in peace or "democracy." They could have negotiated along the lines of "Since the violence started in Donbas following a 2014 un-democratic coup that triggered place wasting to breakoff...we will have a ceasefire and set up credible mutually monitored votes from both sides for Donbas to self determine."

Instead they called them fake from the get go and never considered peace options.

The votes didn't prove the territories wanted to leave Ukraine or join Russia. But they proved US and minions have no interest in peace our "democracy."

[–] • 1 pt

Forbes leans right... but in an establishment way.

Yes, I definitely agree with that. They are...uhh....quite married to the money-making side of the cabal.

The votes didn't prove the territories wanted to leave Ukraine or join Russia. But they proved US and minions have no interest in peace our "democracy."

Very intelligent take on the topic. I'm going to start using this take when the topic comes up.