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[–] • 2 pts

Take Crimea Referendum, for example. Forbes, who is a slight-right-leaning news sight, wrote up a detailed article why that referendum was likely not legit:

https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.forbes.com%2Fsites%2Fdavidadesnik%2F2014%2F03%2F18%2Fhow-russia-rigged-crimean-referendum%2F%3Fsh%3D790eeddc6d41

I will say that based on the numbers, it is possible that a majority would have voted to rejoin Russia, regardless of the shenanigans Russia pulled. However, that suggestion is baseless on my part.

I don't trust any of these elections.

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Forbes leans right... but I'm an establishment way.

We don't have any way of knowing if the votes were legit.

But we do know Eur/US/NATO has no interest in peace or "democracy." They could have negotiated along the lines of "Since the violence started in Donbas following a 2014 un-democratic coup that triggered place wasting to breakoff...we will have a ceasefire and set up credible mutually monitored votes from both sides for Donbas to self determine."

Instead they called them fake from the get go and never considered peace options.

The votes didn't prove the territories wanted to leave Ukraine or join Russia. But they proved US and minions have no interest in peace our "democracy."

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Forbes leans right... but in an establishment way.

Yes, I definitely agree with that. They are...uhh....quite married to the money-making side of the cabal.

The votes didn't prove the territories wanted to leave Ukraine or join Russia. But they proved US and minions have no interest in peace our "democracy."

Very intelligent take on the topic. I'm going to start using this take when the topic comes up.

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...regardless of the shenanigans Russia pulled.

What does that even mean? Ukraine is Russian territory, cleaved from Russia by judaism. As what happened to Germany with the (((treaty of Versailles))).