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Our Helicoptarian Constitution would allow requiring necessary initiatives without taking away people's rights.

For example everyone could wear masks instead of locking people inside to die or go bankrupt.

Thing is under our system the situation would never have gotten out of control in the first place. We would likely have had ZERO cases.

Take a look at what I posted early February:

https://poal.co/s/Helicoptarian/143846 (Early Helicoptarian response)

https://poal.co/s/Helicoptarian/147222 (Treatment)

https://poal.co/s/Helicoptarian/146398 (Worst case Helicoptarian response)

[–] 2 pts

What if I don't want to wear a mask?

[–] 2 pts

You could do that on your own property or in a community that made that decision.

Outside of that spreading a serious disease would violate the freedom of others. Nobody has a right to hurt others - non aggression principle and all that.

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serious disease

You guys seem to have decided early on that this virus is a terrible happening (presumably because it would benefit your cause by upending social order). And it appears to me you've hyped it so much you aren't able to change your minds.

So here you are, grandstanding on the "serious disease" that's caused a pitiful... looks it up ...107,775 worldwide deaths. Maybe you'll say that's a lot, which would show you don't have much perspective. Or maybe you'll say the deaths are underreported, even though they are doing everything in their power to overreport (cdc.gov) by claiming everyone who died WITH Corona died OF corona. Or maybe you'll say the worst is yet to come, even though IT'S APRIL.

Anyway, time will prove one of us wrong. If it's me I'll be able to admit it. If by, say, the end of May the total deaths from acute viral respiratory infections were comparable to previous years, would you revise your estimation of the seriousness of this virus? Or would you claim that's evidence we "flattened the curve" by taking these extreme measures and countries that didn't lock down are lying about their death tolls? From what I can tell this is either literally the flu, or something that is not much worse than a normal year's flu.

Here's a neat tool @x0x7 linked me. Orange line is Sweden. https://codelike.com/corona-dashboard/?countries=DE,IT,US,SE,GB&yaxis=normalized&scale=logarithmic

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I guess my point is "a community that made that decision" isn't very attractive if the community is stupid. The good news (for your purposes) is the bar is already set really low.