I think I just listened to a podcast with McCullough and Rose about this and I can't find this now. You can get a good summary of this, and I think it's in but I don't know which episode now.
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I think I just listened to a podcast with McCullough and Rose about this and I can't find this now. You can get a good summary of this, and I think it's in [McCullough Report](https://www.americaoutloud.com/the-mccullough-report/) but I don't know which episode now.
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