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Hmmm, ok, if they're shipping it to places with plenty of water then that's pretty jewey. At least with Dasani they just use local water.

I actually have to make a correction to my other post, Aqaufina is Pepsi and was being bottled in LA last I checked. Dasani is coke and they hate white people, and do all sorts of other horrible shit so fuck them too. All these water brands are fucked in some way. I will go with Deer Park or Poland Springs if I absolutely need to, otherwise I carry a vacuum insulated stainless steel water bottle which I fill up from my well and lasts all day. I don't need the expense, the waste, the BPA, the thin ass leaky bottles that go warm in 10 minutes, etc.

I'm not familiar with the brand, never seen it before. What deceptive things are they saying?

Just look at it (testaqua.com) "Natural Spring Water", Fiji inspired reverse label, premium pricing, some jew-y shit about hydrating 3rd world kids (guaranteed that 'generosity' stops at their tax write off limit). Then there is the fucking name:

Ethos: the distinguishing character, sentiment, moral nature, or guiding beliefs of a person, group, or institution

yeah oooookaaaaay, lol.

I don't recognise price gouging as thing. If people are willing to pay a lot of money for luxury water then they've decided it's a fair price. If I don't think it's fair I won't buy it and it's not my problem.

To an extent I agree and this is more on Starbucks. Whenever the quality of a product fails to live up to it's price point (as compared to it's competitors) and it's clearly not blowing that cash on attaining market share (ie: advertisement) and it's clearly still making a profit/not totally mismanged (ie: not in market free fall).... Then some sort of price fuckery is at play, in this case an exclusivity contract with Starbucks that allows them to more than double their price per bottle under the guise of being 'premium' and 'ethical' while failing to live up to either standard.

Ok, that's fair enough if it's literally just tapwater and they're paying below it's worth because grafts. The problem in that equation though is the subsidised public works system. Take that out of the picture and there's no potential for corruption.

Incorrect, I understand the corpo-libertarian angle but you are just kicking the can down the road. Take public water out of the picture and you have a fucking banana republic inspired mess (en.wikipedia.org). Water has always been a public commodity (at least in the West). Without public water you would have the oil industry but for water, employing regulatory capture and creating artificial scarcity to raise prices. Can you imagine a world where Nestle owns the rights to the water table under your house and you aren't allowed to have a well because it's theirs, and if they want to put a pump on your front lawn and truck that shit out they can?

The simple solution is to meter the fucking bottling plant, which would have happened decades ago without the greasing of palms.

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I actually have to make a correction to my other post, Aqaufina is Pepsi and was being bottled in LA last I checked. Dasani is coke and they hate white people, and do all sorts of other horrible shit so fuck them too. All these water brands are fucked in some way. I will go with Deer Park or Poland Springs if I absolutely need to, otherwise I carry a vacuum insulated stainless steel water bottle which I fill up from my well and lasts all day. I don't need the expense, the waste, the BPA, the thin ass leaky bottles that go warm in 10 minutes, etc.

I agree, and I also avoid that crap. I'm just wondering about the argument that bottling water is inherently evil as opposed to using piped water. I never see any of the people who complain about (for example) nestle selling watter in bottles complain about the state selling it in pipes. And for what it's worth the state is anti-white too and put crap in the water.

Just look at it "Natural Spring Water", Fiji inspired reverse label, premium pricing, some jew-y shit about hydrating 3rd world kids (guaranteed that 'generosity' stops at their tax write off limit). Then there is the fucking name:

Ok, the only potentially misleading bit I can see there is "spring water." If it's just tapwater then that's pretty underhanded.

As for "natural"... that word means nothing and everything. I don't feel sympathy for any adult who believes in greenwashing marketing spin.

Same for the charitable stuff, every company donates something to some charity nowadays, so it's pretty bland and meaningless.

Ethos: the distinguishing character, sentiment, moral nature, or guiding beliefs of a person, group, or institution

Kek.

To an extent I agree and this is more on Starbucks. Whenever the quality of a product fails to live up to it's price point (as compared to it's competitors) and it's clearly not blowing that cash on attaining market share (ie: advertisement) and it's clearly still making a profit/not totally mismanged (ie: not in market free fall).... Then some sort of price fuckery is at play, in this case an exclusivity contract with Starbucks that allows them to more than double their price per bottle.

I mean... I don't think the average starbucks customer is shopping for the cheapest drink. They're the same people who buy iphones and hybrids.

Incorrect, take that out of the picture and you have a fucking banana republic inspired mess. You would have the oil industry but for water employing regulatory and capture and creating artificial scarcity to raise prices. Can you imagine a world where Nestle owns the water table under your house and you aren't allowed to have a well, and if they want to put a pump on your front lawn and truck that shit out they can?

Agreed, replacing a public monopoly with a private one is hardly an improvement. Or even a distinction since "public" corporations are effectively used for private profit these days.

A better solution would be an open water market where anyone capable of doing so can supply.

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I never see any of the people who complain about (for example) nestle selling watter in bottles complain about the state selling it in pipes.

I mean when you need massive quantities of water from far away to fill your tub or wash your car and they have to be delivered under public roadways/from public reservoirs... Involvement of the state is going to be a necessary evil.

And for what it's worth the state is anti-white too and put crap in the water.

Lol yeah fuck the government. Also does Pepsi or whoever even bother to filter to filter out what the state puts in, lol?

Ok, the only potentially misleading bit I can see there is "spring water." If it's just tapwater then that's pretty underhanded.

As for "natural"... that word means nothing and everything. I don't feel sympathy for any adult who believes in greenwashing marketing spin.

Same for the charitable stuff, every company donates something to some charity nowadays, so it's pretty bland and meaningless.

Yes but just because all the jews do love to jew and jew they do, should we ignore the jewery of this jew?

I mean... I don't think the average starbucks customer is shopping for the cheapest drink. They're the same people who buy iphones and hybrids.

Agreed SB is the ultimate enabler here, they are marking up the water tremendously to push you into buying a coffee, rather than a cheap water with your bagel. I don't like this sort of movie theater/amusement concessions/air port exclusivity model (which is the other place you see Ethos water) though, it's deceptive to hide costs in some non-commodity.

A better solution would be an open water market where anyone capable of doing so can supply.

That already exists though, they just have to also compete with the public water supply. Poland Springs is bottled from a private spring in Maine (the most fresh water on the continent). Coors operates in the same way, they own a spring in a very water rich area, which they turn into piss for mass consumption.

I do agree that you should be able to opt out of state services and not be taxed for them. I don't get public water or sewer, why should I have to pay in full for it?

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I mean when you need massive quantities of water from far away to fill your tub or wash your car and they have to be delivered under public roadways/from public reservoirs... Involvement of the state is going to be a necessary evil.

Why should the resevoirs be public? Or the roads for that matter? Way I see it, the people who own the water should be selling it while paying fees to competing pipelines leasing or buying easements from all the landowners along the way.

If that winds up too expensive, maybe they should be looking into reverse osmosis plants, or being more careful about recycling water, or maybe the city doesn't belong there period.

Lol yeah fuck the government. Also does Pepsi or whoever even bother to filter to filter out what the state puts in, lol?

I'd imagine not.

Yes but just because all the jews do love to jew and jew they do, should we ignore the jewery of this jew?

Eh. Fools and their money. There has to be some kind of consumer accountability somewhere along the way. They have the same option you do: Steel flask with a day's worth of water. If they choose not to avail of it that's their call.

Agreed SB is the ultimate enabler here, they are marking up the water tremendously to push you into buying a coffee, rather than a cheap water with your bagel. I don't like this sort of movie theater/amusement concessions/air port exclusivity model though, it's deceptive to hide costs in some non-commodity.

Me neither, but I don't use it so it's largely not an issue to me. The only place I really have to buy water is airports because they don't let you bring your own. Then again I'm not exactly flying much these days so that's not an issue either.