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Backstory:

Back in September, I requested a religious accommodation for the clot shot (and all other shots using fetal cells). Despite both my Chaplain and my Commander recommending it to be approved, some bastard with stars said "Fuck You." After which I submitted a strongly worded appeal that said "how dare you." Then some cunt with stars said "I'd also fuck you, I mean, Fuck You!"

So now my options are:

  1. Take the shot
  2. Request early separation with Honorable Discharge (Likely start terminal leave early July>officially separate Oct 1st)
  3. Say Fuck You>Paperwork X3 > General Discharge (Might buy a couple months, but I'd likely loose terminal leave)
Backstory: Back in September, I requested a religious accommodation for the clot shot (and all other shots using fetal cells). Despite both my Chaplain and my Commander recommending it to be approved, some bastard with stars said "Fuck You." After which I submitted a strongly worded appeal that said "how dare you." Then some cunt with stars said "I'd also fuck you, I mean, Fuck You!" So now my options are: 1. Take the shot 2. Request early separation with Honorable Discharge (Likely start terminal leave early July>officially separate Oct 1st) 3. Say Fuck You>Paperwork X3 > General Discharge (Might buy a couple months, but I'd likely loose terminal leave)

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[–] • 2 pts

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/navy-board-votes-unanimously-retain-officer-didnt-commit-misconduct

Maybe dig into this story, see if there is any help. Do you have a lawyer? I understand they are different branches.

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I've seen that. So to be more specific, the civilian courts are moving too slow and the masses are already at the chopping block. If I refused, my commander would be obligated to request a general discharge. If I was a young airman, that'd be it.

However, there's a bit more to Option 3. Since I have enough time and rank (6 years or E-5), I'm entitled to a discharge board. This discharge board isn't court. It's with ranking officials. In this discharge board, we can argue that I should stay in, or get a General Discharge.

The few boards I've had a bit of insight into wouldn't even argue the legality of it, aka we'd most likely not even have an avenue for me to request staying in. The only thing they'd be willing to hear is whether or not I've had a good history, and if the bad (refusal) outweighs the good (deployments, awards/decs, special assignments)

To be short, Yes I personally would be entitled to a separation board if I refused. However, it's unlikely the board would even be willing to argue the legitimacy of the shot.

So I'd be throwing away a guaranteed Honorable for a slim shot of retention.

[–] • 1 pt

Thanks for the clarification. When I read that article I thought maybe the tide was turning, faster. The military with everything aligned, is slow AF and they have every reason to drag their feet now..hope you get a decent board.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

general becomes honorable after a time period. general under honorable conditions. fight this shit! are you in that telegram anti-covid shot military group? my kid has 14 years in and is fighting tooth and nail. getting ready to join a lawsuit, too.

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It's not automatic. After 6 months, you can send a request to the VA to upgrade it, but it's not guaranteed. As far as telegram goes, I might be in the same group, but it's a federal group, not a military one. I have ones on Signal as well.

This is the motivation I need to hear though.