Please help verify this- omicron cases in germany 95% vaxed, 4% unvaxed [1196x684 - 87KB]

This translation is included in that article: “Additional information is known to some extent for the Omikron cases in the reporting system. for 6,788 cases were provided with information on the symptoms, mostly none or mild symptoms indicated. It was most common by patients with symptoms Runny nose (54%), cough (57%) and sore throat (39%) mentioned. 124 patients were hospitalized, four people died. Exposure abroad was reported for 543 (5%) cases. 186 patients were unvaccinated, 4,020 were fully vaccinated, of these, a booster vaccination was reported for 1,137. On the basis of the transmitted data 148 reinfections were found among all transmitted Omicron infections, none of them Previous illnesses were reported to the person affected by reinfection. Figure 9 shows the distribution of the Omikron cases reported so far in Germany. Omicron cases have been detected in all federal states.”

Also offtopic but I love the German word for runny nose.

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Case counts are literally meaningless. Especially for omicron. There isn't even a fake test for omicron.

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The problem is with this pdf: https://poal.co/s/Vax/488785/39ef3a6b-a553-4820-ab14-1c2d3014b23b

So they will say this is the real number.

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Don't know but it needs to be presented with the percent of how many are jabbed. That will prove of they are over or underrepresented

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From Tichy's Einblick, a non-mainstream trustworthy news-site. https://www.tichyseinblick.de/daili-es-sentials/omikron-rki-impfung/

Data from the RKI on the efficacy of vaccines against Omikron caused a stir - now the institute has corrected the crucial figure fivefold upwards retrospectively and without notice.

In the Corona weekly report of 30.12. the RKI announced data over the effectiveness of the vaccines against omicron. According to the figures, there were only 186 unvaccinated symptomatic omicron patients for every 4020 fully vaccinated patients. Quietly and without notice or communication, the RKI now changed these figures retrospectively in the report dated Dec. 30: Although there are still said to have been 4020 fully vaccinated symptomatic omicron patients, there were 1097 unvaccinated ones, almost six times the original number. Thus, instead of over 95 percent, 78.5 percent of omicron patients for whom information on vaccination status is available would have been fully vaccinated. Currently, 71.2 percent of Germans are fully vaccinated, according to the RKI.

Below you can read the article published by TE on Dec. 30, which is based on the figures reported by the RKI at the time and is therefore no longer current.

Version supplemented by calculation method

For several months, the Robert Koch Institute (RKI) has published statistics on vaccination breakthroughs in its weekly Covid situation report. In this, the RKI calculates a "proportion [of] vaccination breakthroughs" of "Symptomatic[s] COVID-19 Case[s]" - where a "vaccination breakthrough" by RKI definition is a fully vaccinated, symptomatic Covid-19 case.

The RKI shows a clear percentage here, which is regularly quoted by numerous media. NDR, for example, writes: "Of all people over 60 years of age who contracted Covid-19 in the last four weeks, 65.7 percent were fully vaccinated."

According to the RKI, this percentage is calculated as follows: The number of fully vaccinated symptomatic Corona cases ("vaccine breakthroughs") is divided by the number of "symptomatic Covid-19 cases" "for whom the reported information indicates that they either had completed basic immunization (without booster vaccination) or were unvaccinated." The RKI explicitly writes here, "Symptomatic cases with unknown vaccination status or incomplete basic immunization were excluded."

Thus, according to the RKI, the "proportion [of] vaccine breakthroughs" among "symptomatic COVID-19 case[s]" is the proportion of fully vaccinated symptomatic cases among symptomatic cases for whom it is known whether they are vaccinated or unvaccinated.

The latest weekly report from the Robert Koch Institute now shows certain data on the omicron variant. Here is the full paragraph:

"Additional information is known in some cases for the omicron cases available in the reporting system. For 6,788 cases, information on symptoms was submitted; predominantly no or mild symptoms were reported. The most common symptoms reported by patients were rhinitis (54%), cough (57%), and sore throat (39%). 124 patients were hospitalized and four person died. Foreign exposure was reported for 543 (5%) cases. 186 patients were unvaccinated, 4,020 were fully vaccinated, and of these, booster vaccination was reported for 1,137. Based on the submitted data, 148 reinfections were identified among all submitted omicron infections; no previous illnesses were submitted for any of the persons affected by reinfection. Figure 9 shows the distribution of omicron cases transmitted to date in Germany. Omicron cases were detected in all federal states."

We have now applied the same calculation method used by the RKI for vaccination coverage statistics specifically to the omicron numbers. The number of reported symptomatic omicron-infected persons is 4020. The number of symptomatic omicron cases for which vaccination status information is available is 4206 (4020 vaccinated + 186 unvaccinated). 4020 divided by 4206 is 95.58 percent. We therefore write in the text, "95.6 percent of symptomatic omicron cases for whom vaccination status information is available were fully vaccinated." And abbreviated in the title, "New RKI data: 95 percent of omicron cases fully vaccinated."

The RKI does not report the proportion of those symptomatic cases for whom vaccination status is unknown. The RKI simply states, "For 6,788 cases, information on symptoms was submitted; predominantly no or mild symptoms were reported." However, the numbers regarding vaccination refer to patients who actually had symptoms.

The 95.58 percent is a number whose significance is limited. This is sufficiently explained in the text of TE: The RKI collects the variant with an infection only randomly, the symptomatology of these infections also again only in parts and the vaccination status of the ill again not completely. In the heading not all these restrictions can occur; there only the number of the RKI can be mentioned, only in the further this is then classified.

In the weekly report of the Robert Koch Institute from Thursday, the usual statistics about the "vaccination breakthroughs" are missing due to the data gap over the holidays. Instead, on page 14, it contains explosive new data on the spread of the omicron variant in Germany: information on symptoms is available for 6,788 omicron cases - "predominantly no or mild symptoms" have occurred. The most common symptoms are rhinitis, cough and sore throat. 124 patients were hospitalized, and four person died.

Most importantly, there are new findings about the vaccination status of omicron cases: 95.6 percent of symptomatic omicron cases for which vaccination status information is available were fully vaccinated. Twenty-seven percent had even received a third, so-called booster vaccination. Of 4,206 registered cases, only 186 were unvaccinated.

From these data, there would even be a negative efficacy with two vaccinations. The third vaccination would therefore continue to protect against an omicron infection - but according to the data, the effectiveness is less than one-third. Recent studies have indicated that at least booster vaccination is more effective against omicron.

These figures relate to a small data base, which is due on the one hand to the still limited number of omicron cases in Germany and on the other hand to the small proportion of corona cases that are being tested for the variant in Germany.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

From Tichy's Einblick, a non-mainstream trustworthy news-site. https://www.tichyseinblick.de/daili-es-sentials/omikron-rki-impfung/ ># Data from the RKI on the efficacy of vaccines against Omikron caused a stir - now the institute has corrected the crucial figure fivefold upwards retrospectively and without notice. > In the Corona weekly report of 30.12. the RKI announced data over the effectiveness of the vaccines against omicron. According to the figures, there were only 186 unvaccinated symptomatic omicron patients for every 4020 fully vaccinated patients. Quietly and without notice or communication, the RKI now changed these figures retrospectively in the report dated Dec. 30: Although there are still said to have been 4020 fully vaccinated symptomatic omicron patients, there were 1097 unvaccinated ones, almost six times the original number. Thus, instead of over 95 percent, 78.5 percent of omicron patients for whom information on vaccination status is available would have been fully vaccinated. Currently, 71.2 percent of Germans are fully vaccinated, according to the RKI. > Below you can read the article published by TE on Dec. 30, which is based on the figures reported by the RKI at the time and is therefore no longer current. > Version supplemented by calculation method > For several months, the Robert Koch Institute (RKI) has published statistics on vaccination breakthroughs in its weekly Covid situation report. In this, the RKI calculates a "proportion [of] vaccination breakthroughs" of "Symptomatic[s] COVID-19 Case[s]" - where a "vaccination breakthrough" by RKI definition is a fully vaccinated, symptomatic Covid-19 case. > The RKI shows a clear percentage here, which is regularly quoted by numerous media. NDR, for example, writes: "Of all people over 60 years of age who contracted Covid-19 in the last four weeks, 65.7 percent were fully vaccinated." > According to the RKI, this percentage is calculated as follows: The number of fully vaccinated symptomatic Corona cases ("vaccine breakthroughs") is divided by the number of "symptomatic Covid-19 cases" "for whom the reported information indicates that they either had completed basic immunization (without booster vaccination) or were unvaccinated." The RKI explicitly writes here, "Symptomatic cases with unknown vaccination status or incomplete basic immunization were excluded." > Thus, according to the RKI, the "proportion [of] vaccine breakthroughs" among "symptomatic COVID-19 case[s]" is the proportion of fully vaccinated symptomatic cases among symptomatic cases for whom it is known whether they are vaccinated or unvaccinated. > The latest weekly report from the Robert Koch Institute now shows certain data on the omicron variant. Here is the full paragraph: > "Additional information is known in some cases for the omicron cases available in the reporting system. For 6,788 cases, information on symptoms was submitted; predominantly no or mild symptoms were reported. The most common symptoms reported by patients were rhinitis (54%), cough (57%), and sore throat (39%). 124 patients were hospitalized and four person died. Foreign exposure was reported for 543 (5%) cases. 186 patients were unvaccinated, 4,020 were fully vaccinated, and of these, booster vaccination was reported for 1,137. Based on the submitted data, 148 reinfections were identified among all submitted omicron infections; no previous illnesses were submitted for any of the persons affected by reinfection. Figure 9 shows the distribution of omicron cases transmitted to date in Germany. Omicron cases were detected in all federal states." > We have now applied the same calculation method used by the RKI for vaccination coverage statistics specifically to the omicron numbers. The number of reported symptomatic omicron-infected persons is 4020. The number of symptomatic omicron cases for which vaccination status information is available is 4206 (4020 vaccinated + 186 unvaccinated). 4020 divided by 4206 is 95.58 percent. We therefore write in the text, "95.6 percent of symptomatic omicron cases for whom vaccination status information is available were fully vaccinated." And abbreviated in the title, "New RKI data: 95 percent of omicron cases fully vaccinated." > The RKI does not report the proportion of those symptomatic cases for whom vaccination status is unknown. The RKI simply states, "For 6,788 cases, information on symptoms was submitted; predominantly no or mild symptoms were reported." However, the numbers regarding vaccination refer to patients who actually had symptoms. > The 95.58 percent is a number whose significance is limited. This is sufficiently explained in the text of TE: The RKI collects the variant with an infection only randomly, the symptomatology of these infections also again only in parts and the vaccination status of the ill again not completely. In the heading not all these restrictions can occur; there only the number of the RKI can be mentioned, only in the further this is then classified. > In the weekly report of the Robert Koch Institute from Thursday, the usual statistics about the "vaccination breakthroughs" are missing due to the data gap over the holidays. Instead, on page 14, it contains explosive new data on the spread of the omicron variant in Germany: information on symptoms is available for 6,788 omicron cases - "predominantly no or mild symptoms" have occurred. The most common symptoms are rhinitis, cough and sore throat. 124 patients were hospitalized, and four person died. > Most importantly, there are new findings about the vaccination status of omicron cases: 95.6 percent of symptomatic omicron cases for which vaccination status information is available were fully vaccinated. Twenty-seven percent had even received a third, so-called booster vaccination. Of 4,206 registered cases, only 186 were unvaccinated. > From these data, there would even be a negative efficacy with two vaccinations. The third vaccination would therefore continue to protect against an omicron infection - but according to the data, the effectiveness is less than one-third. Recent studies have indicated that at least booster vaccination is more effective against omicron. > These figures relate to a small data base, which is due on the one hand to the still limited number of omicron cases in Germany and on the other hand to the small proportion of corona cases that are being tested for the variant in Germany. > Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

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Data from the RKI on the efficacy of vaccines against Omikron caused a stir - now the institute has corrected the crucial figure fivefold upwards retrospectively and without notice.