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I work at a SMB with 300-500 people. Bad news is sometimes delivered by gathering everybody together and making an announcement in person. I've heard that a very high up HR rep is scheduled to visit our site in the next week or so to discuss vax mandates. Other sites in other states have already adopted it but we haven't here.

My family and I know that this is the hill to die on, and that there's no way in hell we're getting the kike spike injected into any of us. What I'm hoping to get from this thread is your best verbal argument (one that I can't use images, movies, or other media to back up due to the format) against a mandate at this site.

I was thinking about very pointed questions regarding liability, for instance "If I am one of the unlucky ones who suffers a severe reaction to this forced vaccine and am no longer able to work and provide for my family, who is legally and financially responsible?"

I want questions that will make the guy sweat in front of everyone. There has been enough water-cooler talk between managers and employees that it may very well turn into several hundred angry voices directed at one person. I'd like to be the person to start the ruckus with some tough questions.

Thanks from your friendly, neighborhood retard.

Edit: Ah what the hell - if you have any convincing flyers I'd be interested too. Maybe I'll go print a ton of 'em and have them in-hand to put in break rooms or something.

I work at a SMB with 300-500 people. Bad news is sometimes delivered by gathering everybody together and making an announcement in person. I've heard that a very high up HR rep is scheduled to visit our site in the next week or so to discuss vax mandates. Other sites in other states have already adopted it but we haven't here. My family and I know that this is the hill to die on, and that there's no way in hell we're getting the kike spike injected into any of us. What I'm hoping to get from this thread is your best verbal argument (one that I can't use images, movies, or other media to back up due to the format) against a mandate at this site. I was thinking about very pointed questions regarding liability, for instance "If I am one of the unlucky ones who suffers a severe reaction to this forced vaccine and am no longer able to work and provide for my family, who is legally and financially responsible?" I want questions that will make the guy sweat in front of everyone. There has been enough water-cooler talk between managers and employees that it may very well turn into several hundred angry voices directed at one person. I'd like to be the person to start the ruckus with some tough questions. Thanks from your friendly, neighborhood retard. Edit: Ah what the hell - if you have any convincing flyers I'd be interested too. Maybe I'll go print a ton of 'em and have them in-hand to put in break rooms or something.

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[–] • 8 pts

Your question is good. Companies hate risk and liability. I'd say something like "Normal worker comp doesn't cover vaccine injury. But, since this is mandated by the company, can the company provide - in writing - a guarantee of full salary and benefits for anyone who is injured by the vaccine?"

[–] • 5 pts

Oh I like that. "If not, why not? What other accommodations are there?" They have to acknowledge that this vaccine is not risk-free.

[–] • 1 pt

Normal worker comp doesn't cover vaccine injury

Not necessarily true. Don't give the company an out like this. Let them make the excuses not you.

You could also mention that the OSHA mandate requires companies provide reasonable time off for recovering from side effects. I have a (neighbor/cousin/whoever) with side effects currently stopping them from going to work two months after they received their second shot. How will the company pay for this and how will my already short staffed department deal with losing another employee at random while still having to pay full salary and benefits?

[–] • 6 pts

Threaten to walk out with your co workers who have a back bone.

[–] • 3 pts

We're in the middle of a self-described "staffing crisis." Some of the managers I've talked to can barely run their departments as is. One of the questions I had considered is "How many skilled employees can this plant afford to lose?"

Follow it up with maybe a show of hands?

[–] • 5 pts

The hospital system I work for has to call the purebloods back (I’m one of them btw), your company would have to as well.

[–] • 2 pts

Stock up on food and wait it out till they change their mind? What did you do in the interim if you don't mind me asking?

[–] • 2 pts

Only temporary.

[–] [deleted] • 5 pts

We're in the middle of a self-described "staffing crisis." Some of the managers I've talked to can barely run their departments as is. One of the questions I had considered is "How many skilled employees can this plant afford to lose?"

Good. That's where you need them.

Follow it up with maybe a show of hands?

Hands? A walkout sends the best message. Let them preach to those who are left after a lot of y'all walk off.

[–] • 1 pt

This is the part that I'm personally struggling with. I agree with you, and I likely would find some way of being okay in the event I lose my job, but it would be tough for my family for a while. Ideally I'd like to keep working here - I just want them to not make or follow retarded policies.

[–] • 4 pts

If all else fails:

"Self determination is a core principal of Liberty, my forefathers fought for, killed for, and died for Liberty, what makes you think I won't?"

[–] • 4 pts

You: Hey HR, I understand why you're trying to force the mandates. But consider your business continuation strategy. Do you have a plan in place to continue your business after the graphene spike protein gene editing shot causes AIDS in all your vaccinated employees and they start dying?

I volunteer to stay vaccine free so you'll have some people left in a few years. I suggest you mark my records as fully compliant. I'll vouch for that. That will give you plausible deniability.

[–] • 3 pts

I would not do flyers. You will lose the element of surprise on that HR clown and they will be more prepared because they'll know what's coming. You are best to make sure they have no idea it's coming.

Avoid any talk about what the vaccine can do and the negative side effects, just make it clear like said, just say it's not FDA approved and you are demanding that they will take responsibility for forcing it on you should any negative side effects arise. You do not want to bring up stuff about mRNA or clots or anything, you just want the audience to realize that something bad could happen and the company is going to force them to take it while claiming zero responsibility. The people who are against the vax know it's bad for them, you don't have to repeat it. Your goal is going to be to make things as difficult for the HR cunt as possible while you scare and rile up the other workers. Once you start talking about blood clots, ADE, etc the HR cunt will go into panic NPC mode and start shrieking to trust the science and calling you mean names and belittling you.

HR cunt is probably looking all over websites to see why people don't like the vax so HR can come up and "debunk" any questions you have about safety. But that's the wrong game to play with her, you won't win against a trust the science NPC. You will win if you inspire all the people who don't want the vax to realize they could become unable to work because of something HR demanded and that they wouldn't be legally responsible.

You will get a lot of bonus points if you start to question that the vax is not FDA approved and HR is possibly taking away your ability to provide for your family while they accept no responsibility. There are a lot of people who don't want the vax but are too afraid to speak out. Once you get them to realize HR could force them to take it, they could end up with serious side effects, and the company will go "lol wasn't the vax trust the science correlation does not imply causation!" It sounds kind of evil but a lot of people at the meeting will want to speak out but be too afraid. You have to get them to overcome their fear. Your opponent is not the HR cunt, it's to motivate the shy ones into standing up.

I have completely clowned someone at a meeting before, people will be really shy and hesitant but if you can confidently get up there and get people motivated and involved you should win easily. Just remember to make it personal to them, scare them a little, and do it with the shortest argument you can. Short arguments are a lot more difficult for someone to break down because there's less attack vectors.

Feel out the office and see how everyone feels. If enough people would walk with a mandate that it would hurt the business, the vaxxie cunt won't have anything against you. They'll just sit there and say to trust the science and fauci and it'll really fuck with them.

Good luck.

[–] • 0 pt

Great write up, and good points. Thank you!

Yeah, I agree - I definitely don't want to get into a back and forth regarding actual symptoms because they likely would end up going full NPC on me. To quote Twain, “Don’t wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.” It's not an arena I want to be in.

I have a feeling that they'll provide a "reasonable alternative" in that non-vaxed will have to continue to wear masks and submit to weekly testing. I'm not going to participate in that either.

Damnit... the more I type this out, the more I'm starting to think that the logical next step will be to start looking for different work.

[–] • 3 pts

Don't shoot the HR person in the head.

[–] • 2 pts

Trust the doctors? Trust the science?

Thalidomide.

[–] • 2 pts (edited )

"The omicron variant of the bioweapon referred to as covid is supposed to be little more than the common cold but will provide the best immunity against stronger variants of the bioweapon, I would prefer to catch the omicron variant and have natural immunity than take the risk of being injected with an experimental injection where there have been zero studies of 5 to 10 year long term effects. You are a business, not my personal licensed medical doctor and I and I alone will determine what is best for my health."

[+] [deleted] • 2 pts
[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

What is an SMB?

[–] • 1 pt

The house of cards is collapsing. If you refuse for another 2 months it'll be nation wide.

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