I've said this to clot-bots before, and you know the best response they've given me? "Of course they die in hospital! Because they get so sick at home, that they decide to go to the hospital, duh!" Any good counters for that? I use the homeless population/third world countries as a counter. "Most Africans can't get to a hospital. But they're not dying in droves in their own homes or in the streets or in the bush from covid." Something along those lines. This works IMO, because the USA is allegedly the hardest hit by covid, most deaths and cases than anywhere else in the world- **how?!** How are we harder hit than, say, Somalia, where half the population has HIV and is malnourished, and they have medical capabilities equal to like the early 1800s? Meanwhile we in the "first world" have spent **TRILLIONS** of dollars to fight this "pandemic". We have the best hospitals, best doctors, best food options, etc.... but somehow we're getting the worst of it? NPCs short circuit with this. They get emotional, because as soon as you apply logos to any given aspect of the pandemic, it doesn't make any fucking sense.